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HUGE frame drops with new 1060 G1

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce' started by Stone Gargoyle, May 27, 2019.

  1. Stone Gargoyle

    Stone Gargoyle Ancient Guru

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    i finally upgraded my old 960 this week to a new 1060 6GB this one

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/GIGABYTE-N...gtx+1060+G1&qid=1558624713&s=computers&sr=1-1

    problem is im getting real mixed performance in a lotta game i run some games can hold a solid smooth 60fps

    battlefront 2
    shadow of tomb raider *(with scaling on)*
    hellblade
    rage 2
    just cause 4
    overwatch

    but other games are a complete nightmare with huge constant sutterin and frame drops from 60 down to 20 or even less with huge pauses and skips as if theres not enough power or somethin

    anthem
    evil within 2
    agents of mayhem
    monster hunter world
    quantum break

    i know even with the new gpu my specs aint the best and there is mebbe a bottlececk involved

    AMD FX 8300 4.4Ghz
    8GB ripjaw dual channel ram
    EVGA 600W White Series 80+ Power Supply
    Windows 10 Pro x64
    1tb SSHD

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    help apreciated!!!
     
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  2. jbscotchman

    jbscotchman Ancient Guru

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    What resolution are you using and did you do a clean un-install of your old drivers?
     
  3. Stone Gargoyle

    Stone Gargoyle Ancient Guru

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    1920 x 1080 60hz and yer i used DDU to do clean driver install
     
  4. Undying

    Undying Ancient Guru

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    You need more system ram and an ssd.
     
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  5. A M D BugBear

    A M D BugBear Ancient Guru

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    Increase your system ram to at least 16gb, should be all set for the most part.

    Far as hdd, I am using the wd blue 5200 rpm drives as backup, I have tried games on them to see how it will perform, and it performs very well, much better then I originally thought.

    Raid 0 on those are good too.

    Your gpu is good for 1080p.

    Keep the drive your using now, beef your ram to at least 16gb, report back.

    8gb is low.
     
  6. Stormyandcold

    Stormyandcold Ancient Guru

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    Sorry guys, but, I don't quite agree with your recommendations. You're making him waste money for little gain.

    Stone Gargoyle - What you're experiencing is basically CPU-bottlenecking your GPU. Even a 4.4Ghz overclock won't help. More ram might help smooth things out, but, it won't really give you the performance you're missing on.

    Here's a quick comparison to see the difference vs better cpu (with older GTX980);
     
  7. Stone Gargoyle

    Stone Gargoyle Ancient Guru

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    yer i wasnt sold on the ram solution as i had non of the issue with the 960 before i upgraded so it clear that the 1060 is a bit of a foot step in front of the cpu now compared,, still its not in every game i can play battlefront 2 and wolfenstein 2 at solid 60fps 1080 on high and moving my cpu to high performance mode and gpu to adaptive plus turning off cool n quiet mode has helped a little and reduced stutter. capped fps at 60 to. thx for the input everyone!!! :D
     
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  8. Undying

    Undying Ancient Guru

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    Ram is the culprit here. Im telling you that gaming with 8gb system ram is an issue. The guy above telling you thats not the problem have 32gb, lol.

    Btw, hows the firestrike/timespy scores? Post some and let me show you how my 580 will smash it. :p
     
  9. SerotoNiN

    SerotoNiN Ancient Guru

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    8GB system ram is too low.
    16GB and your stutters will be gone.

    I had this same issue back in the day with F.E.A.R - I think 4GB was the norm at the time and I had 1 or 2, I finally budged and upgraded ram and man, what a difference. Now I always keep my system ahead with RAM (32GB currently and 64GB when new consoles hit)

    EDIT: Keep in mind, system ram will stop stuttering, it will not magically improve frames. It will make gaming smoother though.
     
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  10. jbscotchman

    jbscotchman Ancient Guru

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    4GB was not the norm at the time of original F.E.A.R. I had a Pentium 4 Northwood, 512mb system ram, and a Geforce 6800 vanilla at that time. It ran choppy with all the settings cranked up, but when I added another 512MB I got double the performance. 4GB if I recall didn't become the norm until around 2008-2009.
     

  11. Chastity

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    Point being is that today, 8GB is a choke-fest.
     
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  12. sverek

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    I think it's CPU, not memory.
     
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  13. HeavyHemi

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    I'd agree that the combination of an aging processor and marginal memory speed and amount, is impacting your performance. But I think you know that... are we being used to try to argue the 'better half' into another upgrade? :p
     
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  14. Undying

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    I know what you did there.
     
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    • CPU-heavy games will perform less if compared to stronger CPU's.
    • Whilst the CPU is the limiting factor in frame-rate, moving to good graphic card will provide no increase in frame-rate.
    *ignore the price (below)
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    Evil Within 2 is poorly optimized, it will run with lower than usual CPU and GPU usage on any system no matter the settings. But it still should be about 85% on the GPU so it's a definite CPU bottleneck there.
    The rest of the not-so-well-playable list are very demanding on system memory, amount but also bandwidth.
    I saw a significant change when I recently upgraded my G4560 to Ryzen 1700. I thought at 4K I'm mostly GPU bound and 1070Ti cannot handle more than 30-35fps on new games at that resolution anyway but it seems having 98-100% GPU usage doesn't tell the whole story: in AC Odyssey I had 31fps average at 4K with the Pentium with constant 98+% GPU usage and with Ryzen I get 37 average with the same GPU usage.
     
  17. Stone Gargoyle

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    thx for all the replies everyone of course i will upgrade to 16gb sooner or later im on a very old ASUS M5A78L-M LX AM3+ motherboard *(2011!!!)* on top and know im lucky to get the kind of performance i get in a lot of games

    after doin some research i have found that evil within 2 is considered a very poor port regardless of ram

    Terrible performance. I would advise to stay away.

    My specs: i5-4570 / gtx 1070 / 16gb Ram / SSD

    Monitoring with MSI Afterburner, nothing is hitting the ceiling or maxing out, yet in game regardless of settings or fixes, fullscreen or windowed, there are terrible drops and tons of stuttering.


    i tried out the resi 2 demo which is pretty similar and that ran like a dream glad i didnt pay that much for EW2
     
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  18. SerotoNiN

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    Ok, well...whatever the "norm" was, I was well below it and added 4GB and the stutters in that game were gone.
     
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    gettin closer and closer to eliminating that bottleneck on higher settings thank the stars for vulkan all games should use it!!!

     
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    the combination of your cpu, ram and the ancient architecture is the culprit here. I know from first hand experience. My brother's rig has a 8320 and 16gb ram and 1070ti and the frame drops are just ridiculous compared to my rig. Even when I had a 1080 (similar to his 1070ti), games would run a LOT smoother on my rig compared to his. It was night and day.
     
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