How much better is the FX5700 than the FX5200?

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce' started by batryn, Mar 31, 2006.

  1. The Radeon 9800Pro is faster than both the FX5200 and the FX5700 combined. And very cheap these days....
     
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    bbvdd2 Maha Guru

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    I don't know about that repapips
    My little 6200 scores better than any 5700 ever made and not to mention any 5950Ultra ever benched in 3DMark03.
    Best 5700 ever 4,626 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1957007
    Best 5950 ever 6,180 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4284311
    My 6200 6,389 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4042780
    I got '05 benches that pound those cards as well but figured '03 should get the point across :D

    Just stay away from the TC model. But the 6600GT should stomp my 6200.
     

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    repapips2004 Maha Guru

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    What im saying is in PURE SPEED... If you force FX5700 ULTRA to use PS 1.4 and VS 1.1 your 6200 will not going to stand a chance. Also, i doubt the FX5700 ULTRA that you present is a GDDR3 memory version.

    FX5700 ULTRA with a GDDR3 version runs on a 6600GT speed (except for the core which is 475 i think. but the memory is 900+.

    Your 6200 will win on SHADER but in pure speed i doubt...
     
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    So why if someone had the option, would they want to force lower shaders, when the better shaders give better performance? Seems to me someone would want a card that performs newer games better, not worse ;)

    I don't know if the example I linked was a gddr3 card or not. It however was THE best score for a 5700 ULTRA ever in 03. What you may be forgetting is the core architecture and not just clock speed when comparing cards from different generations. Sure clock speeds certainly help but are by no means the end all speed.

    But as to the thread starters original question, the 5700 would stomp the 5200's guts out. I had a 5200 also and it was a real POS.
     
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    repapips2004 Maha Guru

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    Well the FX5700 ULTRA suggestion is only for his P3 system. Now he says that he will get an ATHLON 64 3200, so i suggest getting 7600GT.
     
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    That would be an excellent card if his budget is $200 for a card.
     
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    I think he can afford it, cause when planning to get an ATHLON 64 3200 from a P3 system. So were talking overhaul here. He will get a new MOBO, RAM, PSU, PROC and VIDEOCARD. So i think he got a budget for this baby's...
     
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    the 7600gt will be another $100usd increase from the around $400 budget comp atm....

    btw: those stuff are NOT exactly futureproof as...

    Windows VISTA + DX10 is due in a few months.....
    intel CONROE is coming soon
    AMD socket M2 is coming soon
    nvidia gf8 due in a few months along with vista
    ati new series with dx10 few months also...

    i would suggest that u wait and then choose the best thing then to be futureproof....

    (i bought my system 2 years ago when the 775 and 6600gt were the only pci express stuff, it lastest quite a while :) i can still upgrade even today :D )
    if u get like a a64 or p4 today then its gonna quickyl get outdated as next generation cpus are unlikely to be compatible on todays motherboards..... which means upgrading later on is limited...

    imo a 6200 standard 128bit non-tc would have same performance as a 5700ultra as my cousin has one (MSI)

    6600s are good too ... have them on other comps
     

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    On the waiting to upgrade thing, if a new generation is due out in like a month and performance is much better than any last generation and you can afford the upgrade to the new stuff, then wait a few weeks.

    But in this case, he's going on a budget and the newer gear is months away. Heck, Vista got pushed back to next year so who needs DX10 until possibly 1Q 2007?
     
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    I'd say stick with the 5700 till dx10, or if you really want to upgrade get a secondhand 9800 pro or 6600 GT, those cards will smoke your old one and tide you over till dx10 comes for a very decent price (say about 75-90€)
     
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    Get a 6600GT instead of 9800pro. Waiting for future may be wise but I think you are fed up with 5200 lol.
     
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    There's not much of a difference in performance between a 9800 pro and a 6600 GT, but i think you can get it a bit cheaper than the 6600 GT (say 10-15€) since everyone is getting rid of his old AGP based systems
     
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    Well, if your getting a new cpu, that means you need new memory & new motherboard also, which will probably be pci-e anyway. Then you will have to replace that 300w PSU because it's not going to provide enough power.

    So why are you asking about upgrading your agp card? This makes no sense at all.

    Sounds like alot for a small budget.
     

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    On a small budget you won't be able to buy a decent rig for gaming, and your p3 is too much of a bottleneck for any newer card than your 5700 anyway, so i'd say just suck it up and get a killer new system when you've some cashflow again. (nvm my previous 9800/6600GT suggestion, as your cpu is too slow anyway)
     
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    i think if you can wait it out on your current system, then wait till DX10 ... since getting soon to be outdated technology doesnt seem very wise, at least to me...
     
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    Also, don't get a 3200+ right now, wait till intel's conroe cpu's arrive, should be about 6 months and they'll totally smoke the AMD64 processors.
     
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    one reason that they are faster because its a new generation of CPU's completely revised......remember the AXP to A64 this might be the same step to intel as it was to AMD.....also dont be so sure mainly because by that time AMD will release a new line of CPU's
     
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    I'd go with a 9800pro.

    They are fast and cheap, especially used.
     

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