How is NSA breaking so much crypto?

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    There have been rumors for years that the NSA can decrypt a significant fraction of encrypted Internet traffic. In 2012, James Bamford published an article quoting anonymous former NSA officials stati...

    How is NSA breaking so much crypto?
     
  2. Humanoid_1

    Humanoid_1 Master Guru

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    wow, that's some real carelessness brought on by number blindness and faith in that blindness.

    "Hey guys, we we have this Reeally Big Number, so big we won't have to worry about it being ever cracked, lets all just use the same key...." -.-"""

    Kinda reminds me of :

    "640 kB ought to be enough for anybody"

    lolol
     
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    kosh_neranek Master Guru

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    This is hard to believe. The whole world using just a handful of huge primes for crypto..WOW
     
  4. Koniakki

    Koniakki Ancient Guru

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    Thankfully I upgraded my protection and I'm not worried! :wanker:

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    RzrTrek Ancient Guru

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    Mr Robot
     
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    Koniakki Ancient Guru

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    Almost there... ;)

    Major Quantum Computing Breakthrough
     
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    This also probably means NSA have already come up with a way to improve the code and are working on a way to break it right now XD
     
  10. Barry J

    Barry J Ancient Guru

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    wonder if they start a service for password retrieval
     

  11. Herem

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    If the NSA can do it then its not beyond the realms that others have the same capabilities.

    It makes you wonder why companies are so keen to move all of their IT infrastructure into the cloud when there's such a long history of security algorithms being broken.
     
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    Umm I dunno about all cert authorities but the one we exclusively use has required 2048 bit since Oct 2013 and better crypto's. Maybe I'm missing something but your article says 1 year for 1024 so 2048 would be exponentially more and unfeasible.
     
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    I'd be more inclined to think it works like just about everything else in the world

    Target: Secure
    Infiltration unit: I`ll give you many moneyz
    Target: Done
    World: Fooked
     
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    k3vst3r Ancient Guru

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    Lets face it, if they have physical access to the data they can access it eventually.
     

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    The problem with large prime numbers is that they are going to have to be hard coded into the program.

    If they have more than one available to use, then they are just going to have a table of those numbers to choose from.

    On top of that, using large primes of a specific form is going to limit the available choices even more which is going to make it even more insecure.

    Once the "hacker" has the list of available for use primes, all they have to do is iterate through them one by one and look for it to decode the traffic into something that looks correct for the type of traffic they are trying to "hack".

    If it can be programmed, it can be hacked.
     
  17. Ven0m

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    They want to ban encryption, like in some totalitarian countries.

    Well, yes, but it may be unpractical to hack.

    Also, you don't really have to hardcode these numbers. For example VPN negotiations may have different numbers for different servers. For other purposes, larger pool can be used. The issues is that we don't know that many primes. I mean there are a lot of them, but the increase of computing power will catch up.
     
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    10^9 times harder for a 2048 bit than for a 1024

    NIST has recommended phasing out 1024 since 2010.
     
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    What Mr Robot did would be welcome by 99% of everyone on this planet, im surpised no one has done/tried it yet

    Besides is anyone really shocked by this? NSA among other agency have been data mine people for decades with the invention of the internet and mass wifi cell phones etc etc it became that much easier.

    No such thing as uncrackable,
     
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    Also helps keeping the battery from freezing, right? :D
     

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