How do you feel about Google investing in solving Death?

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  1. SapphireLynx

    SapphireLynx Guest

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    Esp... Alcor omg lmao I can't believe that **** actually exists... I bet a bunch of celebrities do it.
     
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    boodikon Ancient Guru

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    Probably be a free app on the Google play store for a couple of weeks or pay £2.99 for the season long pass.
     
  3. J.B.west

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    You have to take into account that science knows why we age, has to do with the fact that stem cells as they grow older they cant regenerate our cells as quickly as they used to when they were young causing us to grow old.

    Google most likely is using it as a publicity stunt. The tech needed to keep our stem cells at the age of lets say 25-30 is quite impossible for our technology (assuming they want to mass produce), it would take 100s of yrs for scientists to be able to manipulate our bodies on a cellular level.

    And who would want to live to be 200 anyways
     
  4. Darkest

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    With a relatively young body, I imagine a hell of a lot of people.
     

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    hallryu Don Altobello

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    Bacon is the answer.
     
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    ManofGod Ancient Guru

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    BLEH! Ancient Guru

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    This. :p
     
  8. SapphireLynx

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    Bacon makes life worth living.
     
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  11. scheherazade

    scheherazade Ancient Guru

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    Which is why we don't care so much if the middle east runs out of oil in 40 years.

    Hence why I'm not surprised Iran wants to go nuclear.
    The money dries up with the oil. Every gallon burned is a gallon not sold.
    Get what you can while the getting is good, and position yourself for the moment when the oil is gone.
    Don't wanna get caught with your pants down.

    As far as living forever, I'm sure you could have a DNA virus injection that would alter your body to be regenerative.
    There are animals on earth that live essentially forever (certain worms) ... or as long as it takes before something kills it.
    You could "borrow" part of their design and incorporate it. If not to one's self, then to one's egg/sperm.

    But the world needs a higher standard of living for this to be practical.
    People need more TV/Games/Porn, so that they have more to do when they come home than drink and screw.
    Otherwise the population will assplode all over the place.

    -scheherazade
     
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  12. Veeshush

    Veeshush Maha Guru

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    I think it'd be great for people who truly have not yet experienced much of their life yet, like kids with medical issues, cancers, that sort of thing. But anyone that would normally have every right to live but because some illness just can't be cured right now they're screwed. For that, Alcor would give these people a second chance.

    However, you're exactly right though. The non-rich are **** out of luck, because people who are of poor health are not going to be getting any 80k-200k life insurance to cover the Alcor bill. And Alcor can not even bring back anything at the moment or repair any damage it does do to the body (nor can ever guarantee it ever can), so all this could end up being just a false sense of security, even if it's the only remotely possibly way and does indeed preserve a person better than any other method of burial.

    So yeah, Paris Hilton's ****ing dog is frozen (true ****) and will probably outlive us all. That's not even a world I want to live in anymore. ****ing just shoot me now.

    At some point I think it'd be very lonely because pretty soon someone you know is not going to make it, and it's going to happen more than once. Whatever we existed as before we were born we must of been content with, and even without an afterlife we'll still be content returning to it, and that is worst case short of believing in Hell or something. So, yeah I'd take being content, knowing beforehand I'll join my loved ones in whatever darkness awaits us all.
     
  13. Mr.Bigtime

    Mr.Bigtime Ancient Guru

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    What about curing cancer. People suffer so much.
     
  14. Andrés

    Andrés Guest

    And what guarantees that cryogenics can preserve the inner electrical state of your brain?. We don't know, if we ever bring someone back to life, if he will preserve his memories.
     
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    Veeshush Maha Guru

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    http://www.alcor.org/FAQs/faq02.html#stops

    http://www.alcor.org/Library/html/nanotechrepair.html

    But again, exactly. Although cooling the brain DOES help eliminate a TON of damage (and is being studied in other areas for reducing brain injury) and is still a better alternative than, again, any other burial method today; they're putting a lot of trust into future tech that still might not ever work too well.

    I think Alcor and Aubrey de Grey (who does support Alcor) can make some arguments that I can't really disagree with (why shouldn't we pursue this when it is just medicine advancing as a whole, and quality of life), but with the ones I do disagree with...

    http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-shows/curiosity/topics/aubrey-de-grey-ending-aging.htm

    Youtube has a lot of videos of him talking as well. I can't say he's not an interesting person (BEARD) but, he does come off too confident that he'll be one of the first people to live past 150, if not getting into immortality quackery (I'm sorry, Aubrey, but you like the rest of us will die someday). He doesn't do it pushing supplements though, and does have some real methods behind him, although those are again, methods that people would be pursuing REGARDLESS to combat things like Alzheimers, cancer, geriatrics, etc.

    But if this going to be a thread about extending lifespans then you really can't go there without de Grey.
     

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    TekkMarine Maha Guru

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    I imagine so, you wouldn't be able to extend life without extending human functions of intelligence. That's an interesting fiction, there's an interesting ******* on through the wormhole that explores the same issues should we escape the death of our sun.
     
  17. SapphireLynx

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    I'm fine with curing cancers and stuff, but that is not what Google is trying to do, they are trying to extend human life by a large amount according to the Time cover story I read.

    Ego much? Kind of ashamed Google would rather extend life then invest in curing cancers.
     
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    No money in curing cancer more money in treating.
     
  19. Andrés

    Andrés Guest

    Am I the only one who sees that curing cancer is implicit in the company's prerogative of extending life?
     
  20. StewieTech

    StewieTech Chuck Norris

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    Why would one want to live much longer? Life is bad, and if it wasn´t for our animal instinct to preservation and the general population´s lack of intellect to perceive through cold judgment the cruel joke that it is the human existance, this dead march would certainly be getting smaller as opposed to larger. But on a more optimistic point of view, sure you can have a good run, live 70-100 years of peaceful, happy life but more than that is nuts. I´m 23 and i´m not planing to go past 40, i´ll pop one bullet in the brain before that. And yeah, like others said, just as an example: why in the unholy name of ass aren´t they trying to cure diseases or do something that actually makes sense and still help people? Truly help people, not reinvent them. Can something like money/profit turn our morals upside-down this bad? When did we become only numbers?
     

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