High End Audiophile thread

Discussion in 'Soundcards, Speakers HiFI & File formats' started by ROBSCIX, Jan 2, 2013.

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  1. GenClaymore

    GenClaymore Ancient Guru

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    I been enjoying my NFB 15.32 since I got it 2 weeks ago, even more when I found out that it's USB Transfer chip USB-32 supports Full Blu ray audio, which was a big plus. Besides being a Async USB input on it. It been working great so far. It being 32bit/192khz is nice, even tho the usb-32 chip does support 384khz which isnt useable. Tho not like that would matter much. Since it has Native ASIO, I don't gotta mess with ASio4all, like I had to do on the NFB-12,plus I don't have to go thru the hassles, Like I did on the NFB-12.
     
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    aless83 Master Guru

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    I only started with my audio stuff 7 years ago... but I've been really lucky to find a Cyrus One in mint condition and cheap (300€), still in it's box and never opened!

    Here are some pics!
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    crappy phone= crappy pics :3eyes:

    btw: the LS3/5A's are a joy to listen to, I completely understand your dad...
     
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  3. Tom F

    Tom F Ancient Guru

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    Muff, what drivers are in your speakers?
     
  4. Mufflore

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    The drivers and parameters are on this page
    http://www.iplacoustics.co.uk/ipl_drive_units_.htm
    Mine are mostly Hi-Vi, modified to IPL specs.

    The drivers used in the large front speakers (S5tl Kevlar Ribbon) are:
    RT1.3b or RT1.3m Ribbon Tweeter £43 / £47
    IPL/5/M magnesium Mid £40
    IPL/10/K Kevlar 10" Woofer £98

    The surrounds/centre use a Fountek Ribbon tweeter £45 and IPL/5/M mid £40 (2 in the centre speaker).


    The RT1.3b tweeter looks like a modified Hi-vi RT1.3 on the page below.
    The IPL/5/M mid looks like a modified Hi-vi M5A
    The IPL 10" woofer looks to be a modified Hi-vi F10, set in a transmission line.
    http://www.iplacoustics.co.uk/hi_vi_research_drivers.htm

    Quoted from the first link
     

  5. Mufflore

    Mufflore Ancient Guru

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    Nice!
    I wish I could try the Cyrus 1 now.

    The only really old solid state amp I've tried within the last 5 years was an upgraded Quad 405 MK II current dumper.
    MK I (cos it looks the same and theres more piccys)
    http://www.valveradio.co.uk/page15.htm
    MK II + specs
    http://www.retrohifi.co.uk/quad _405-2.html
    Its got a lovely tone but isnt much good for top end detail.
    So we built it into a subwoofer with 2x12" cones, it was wonderful.
     
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    I would love to build my own speakers (and to know how to do it, while I'm at it) but here is Spain there is very little market for parts...
     
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    It's all I can think about lately. I'm obsessed. Here's a shot of a 2.25 cu ft box with a 12" subwoofer on top of it. The box on the bottom is 4 cu ft. I will be putting an 18" subwoofer in it.

    I've roughed up the 2.25 cu ft box and my old speakers in preparation of painting them with Duratex. I can't wait to see how it turns out. :nerd:


    (sorry for the low light level!)


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  8. Mufflore

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    I found some more specs on the drivers the S5TL front speakers are modded from.
    Hivi F10 Hi end woofer
    http://www.swanspeaker.com/asp/product/htm/view.asp?id=65
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    Hivi M5N Bass-Midrange
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    Hivi RT1.3M Isodynamic Ribbon Tweeter
    http://www.swanspeaker.com/asp/product/htm/view.asp?id=449
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    Interesting stuff. I wonder what mods they do? All the T-S params look the same. Matching is probably well worthwhile though, as these chinese drivers can vary quite substantially apparently.

    Metal driver to a ribbon with a 2k5 Fs is going to be a serious compromise on a first order x-over I suspect.

    You might get away with it between the mid and bass driver, though. Could run the M5 full range and use the F10 to do the BSC :)

    Any particular reason for wanting to do a first order crossover?
     
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  11. Mufflore

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    Some things he keeps close to his chest.
    When I mentioned modding the crossovers, he almost barked at me as he spent a long time getting them to match the drivers well.

    Yep, its possible it wont work well.
    How it sounds will be the defining factor and wont be resolved for many months!
    Cone breakup distortion could be the limiting factor and may require a change of driver(s) if I cant reduce it enough.


    The low/mid may be easier to handle, although the F10 extends quite high, the mid/woofer xover is currently 700Hz.
    The method you described is how we have run my brothers system.
    I may use a second order or a hybrid filter on the woofer and/or a small amount of separation at the xover points (to reduce some peaks and/or increase attenuation without making too large a dip, could be worth the compromise).

    I'm interested to see how much more detail can be extracted.
    My brother is using 1st order crossovers on his speakers (using the same tweeters as me) and definitely is getting more detail from his Oppo 105 BD/SACD player than I am from mine.

    My Minimax Plus DAC is definitely clearer than the Oppo on my amp/speakers.
    But the Minimax didnt play at all well on my brothers kit (it simply sounded horrible so we unplugged it! yet its awesome here), we're trying it again next month, so we havent managed a good comparison with that yet on his.
    We will be comparing our Oppo players to see if there is a notable difference between them.

    My bruv has done many comparisons between 1st and second order crossovers and is a big fan of 1st order for maximum detail retrieval but he found it a royal pita to get balanced without sounding harsh, much trial and error.
    He's done a good job though with the oddest mix of drivers.

    The xover is the next stage in optimising my system.
    My goal is to use as less components in the signal path as I can get away with, although a zobel/lpad will inevitably creep in.
    I'll try parallel and series filters to see which is easiest to work with.
     
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    Ahh, if you would consider changing the drivers there's epic potential! The M5 is a nice driver but looks to have a big breakup node at 9ish k - not a problem on a steeper slope, but you'd definitely hit it with first order. Could notch it I guess, but that's not going to help the goal of low component count.

    If you used a 4" full range driver or something for the mid, then you could cross to the ribbon at like 8k or something so it wouldn't have to work so hard. Would be horribly directional, but I guess that's the price of a first order setup (which is saved by not having to buy loads of Ls and Cs ;))
     
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    Sabbath Maha Guru

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    My complete System excuse the mess, gonna do some cleaning:

    Fronts - Bic America Formula 350watts with Horn
    Center - Bose 150watt cube - Still does the job nicely
    TV - Samsung LCD LED 3D Smart TV
    ONKYO - HT-RC370 Receiver
    ONKYO - DVD audio and Super Audio CD player
    PC - with X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty pro - running multi ch analog with switcher for DVD/Super Audio player.

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    Sub- The famous Polk Audio PSW505 12 inch 460Watt subwoofer
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  16. Tom F

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    Those look nice :)

    I like Genelecs - I think the 8000 series would make great hifi speakers. Never seem overly transparent, but I'd love some to use at home...
     
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    Man that TV cabinet balancing act looks dodgy as hell. I hope for your sake you don't have an earthquake.
     
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    LOL, nah, it's fine :)
     
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