High End Audiophile Thread Part 2

Discussion in 'Soundcards, Speakers HiFI & File formats' started by vbetts, Sep 24, 2018.

  1. RzrTrek

    RzrTrek Ancient Guru

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    ASMR certified audio. :p
     
  2. GenClaymore

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    I finally found a good deal on a used and great cond. SMSL SU-8 V2 off ebay, Paid $195 for it,Suppose to get here next week. Luckily I won't need to buy XLR cable's since I still have some left over from many years ago, from when I had the Gustard X12 Dac and H10 HP amp setup. I just hope I can set it above my Jotunheim, or at least on the side if it doesn't take up too much room. But I will let you guys know how it sound paired with my jot when I get it.

    I don't know what I going to do with the AE-5, I may keep it and put it up to have in case I need it again.
     
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    I got my SMSL SU-8, and got it connected to my Schiit jotunheim balanced, all this time owning the jotunheim, I didn't realize there was a balanced setting on the input switch which was the middle setting. I was trying to figure out why I wasn't getting any sound. I'm trying to get enough time with it , before i give my results with it, but so far I'm liking it a lot.

    I know the photo is a little blurry, but it was the best I could take for right now.

    Edit: also I trying my best to keep my cable together as the black sleeve is ripping away from each other. I really don't wanna buy another balanced for my R70X right now.

    [​IMG]
     
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    I'm impressed, component selection is very good.
    Its a shame they couldnt make use of the AKM 4497.
     
  6. tunejunky

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    the ADC (line in) spec is jaw dropping...anyone who wants to rip their vinyl into flac/alac should look into this.
     
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    Yeah, it would be handy to have a card with proper line out. The SoundCore3D chip in AE-5 is trash for that... That EVGA card has rather interesting feature: analogue headphone volume control via by this chip: https://datasheets.maximintegrated.com/en/ds/DS1882.pdf Basically a digital vol pot (with steps, they'll likely use the 63 positions & 1dB steps configuration).

    The only meh thing is that it uses PCI-E to USB bridge chip. Looking forward to seeing how this works in practice. The design looks really solid. It all comes down to performance/€ vs. AE-9.
     
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    Since I been using my SMSL SU-8 with my jotunheim in balanced, I been enjoying it a lot, much more then I ever did then the jot's own AK4490 dac module, and the AE-5. Every thing is much much more enjoyable, this includes movie and games. I have the Version 2 of the SU-8 with 1.3FW, so I not having any issues at with it. Sounds so clean, there is no brightness any where. It also doesn't get hot, it get a tad warm, but not hot like my jotunheim.
     
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    Looks like it might be good, But sadly we won't know til some one grabs one and report in.
     

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    Wow, native DSD up to quad DSD! Audio cards are beginning to get serioues about high res audio format!:cool:
     
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    yeah...i'm still tapped out from paying for 2tb M.2's in my threadripper.
    but...that is exactly where Nu Audio card would go.
    oh tax refund gods be kind
     
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    The only downside to this card (as with any analogue card, but more so with a very high detail card such as this) is the length of analogue cables needed.
    ie the longer the cable, the more detail/imaging is lost.
    Something that may help:

    I found one cable that seems impervious (at least to our hearing).
    I made a very long set of silver cables with no shielding for my brother.
    ie the silver wires have a cotton dielectric and nothing more. They are left loose wire, in open air all the way from DAC to amp.
    They had to be very long because he is using Monoblock amps with very short speaker wires and his speakers are quite wide apart.
    It didnt impact the sound such that we didnt consider it a problem.

    I use short versions from both my DACs to my amps and they are fantastic.
    Recommended even if you dont use silver wire.
    Try copper cables with no shield, it should improve high f. response.
    The only downside is if something nearby transmits noise/pulses etc at audio frequencies, this could pick them up.
    Neither of us have had this problem and my PC is open case.
     
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    It seems to me too much placebo and snake oil going on here.
     
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    I do hope that someone runs some proper measurement tests with actually good equipment. I'm quite interested to know how well they succeeded. It does have quite a few nice things - like actually good ADC. Personally I only care about stereo so anything else on a card would be useless extra taking more space from things that could make it better for stereo (headphone) use.

    It looks like AE-9 uses ESS Sabre ES9038Q2M DAC. I still wonder one thing though... Do they use multiple DAC and ADC chips? The card itself has them definitely but how about the external box?

    What's so outrageous? Converted to euros that would be 256 € (tax included). In line with $ and € prices.
     
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    Looks very good!
    It will be interesting to see the figures tested.
     
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    Unfortunately those kind of reviews are next to useless... It would be nice if some proper ones would come up soon. I want to see measurements and how it handles different headphone ohm loads.
     
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    I gotta say... I've found my endgame headphones. It's Sennheiser HD 650 (6XX). Anything else that I've heard just doesn't have the same balance and natural treble without any sibilance (I just hate splashy sh shshshshs sounds - I just can't stand that artificial annoyance). Mids are clear, rich and detailed while the texture is smooth. When it comes to headphones (and sound in general) there are few things that I really value and so far this offers by far the best compromise and overall package.

    It's quite funny... now when I switchback to HD 595 or HD 58X the first impression is that they are muddy and in terms of performance those two are closer to each others. Both have treble peaks, HD 595 less annoying ones but HD 58X has some artificial sibilance which doesn't sound that nice since the mids lack detail and clarity (while being a bit recessed in comparison to HD 6XX). HD 595 has massive mid bass bloat but it does handle voices better than HD 58X. In any case, the differences are really obvious.

    If someone is wondering between HD 58X and HD 6XX just get the HD 6XX for extra $50. Personally I wouldn't feel bad even if I'd have to pay the full HD 650 price (goes for 329,90 € here) in comparison to HD 58X ($149 + VAT).

    If Sennheiser ever releases a true successor to HD 650, then I'm interested. HD 660 S isn't one. HD 700 was horrible and HD 800 S doesn't do the job either. Maybe someday...


    By the way, I really love how modular the HD 6x0 series is. Changing cables, earpads... everything is so simple. It's very clever design and also light. I ended up buying the 3m cable since the 1,5m was a bit too short.
     
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    @Anarion I still have my original HD580 Precision + Cardas cable, and I understand what you are talking about. The HD58X is not the same as the HD580.
     

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