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High End Audiophile Thread Part 2

Discussion in 'Soundcards, Speakers HiFI & File formats' started by vbetts, Sep 24, 2018.

  1. SplashDown

    SplashDown Master Guru

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    Man been reading, reading & reading I guess my choice is between the Sennheiser HD 598 Cs and Beyerdynamic DT 770 pro 80 ohm. From reading depending who did the review the Beyerdynamic's have better bass and more comfortable long term wearing than the Sennheisers. The Sennheisers are 23 ohm & 10 – 28,000 Hz frequency response and the Beyerdynamics are 80 ohm & 5 Hz - 35,000 Hz frequency response. Been reading so much on them it's starting to get confusing ..lol. But out of the 2 the Beyer's seem to be the better and have better bass or am I wrong? I just wish the Beyer's had replacable cable like the Sennheisers. I'm disabled now so money is a big deal I have to make the right purchase I can't blow money I have to save for months to get. Thanks again everyone for input.
     
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    If you have any stores around you that sells headphone's, if they let you, give both headphone's an listen. Then pick the one that sounds good to you. Also if you wear glasses then you might not find the beyerdynamic comfortable, because I didn't when I had the DT77 pro 80's years ago, which was the main reason why I gave them to my brother.

    As for open back headphone's, some leak a lot of sound, while other's doesn't leak that much.I used plenty of open back headphones over the year's and still using one currently.
     
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  3. SplashDown

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    Thanks for the info & suggestions, appreciate.....
     
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    Any Sennheiser HD 59x is extremely comfortable, even with glasses. They have low clamping force and soft pads. HD 598 Cs probably uses different drivers than the HD 598 so no idea if those perform worse. They have oddly low impedance which can be problematic unless your amp/source has low enough output impedance (in this case 1 ohm should be preferable). Around that price HD 58X would be much better buy though (it's superior). Unless you really want closed back headphone. It's actually extremely hard to recommend any HD 59x series cans when there's HD 58X.
     
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    Ya that is what I really wanted was the HD 58X & for the price seems unbeatable. How much sound leaks out on them? Is there any information on that or do you know how much leaks out?. Situation would be me listening to music at 5 or 7 out of 10 volume and wife trying to watch TV But ya 58X was my first choice. Thanks bud ....
     
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    Are you sensitive to mid treble spikes ? Be aware that the DT770 has a nasty treble peak at 8-9kHz. This peak on this headphone is harsh and painful for some people, myself included. I used to own this headphone years ago, and ended up selling it. It has bloated and boomy bass, recessed mids, and a harsh mid treble peak. The DT880, which I also used to own, also has a treble peak at 8-9kHz, but it not harsh at all in its character like it is on the DT770. Of course, the DT880 is an open back, so that won't work for you. I know you mentioned that you wanted to get something for 200, but I think you should save up more, and get yourself the Audioquest Nightowl Carbon instead. You can check it out at the link. It costs 400 now, but used to cost 700 just last year. This headphone blows the doors off the DT770. You would be very impressed with it. It has imaging and soundstaging that matches many open back headphones. The treble response is completely non-fatiguing. There is great space between instruments, and everything sounds nicely layered. You would be very surprised by this headphone. It literally sounds like an open back. It offers great isolation from outside noise, and is also one of the most comfortable headphones out there. Be aware that this headphone has a solid burn in time to get to its peak performance level. The sound continues to develop for the first 150 hours or so of use.

    https://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-N...rds=nightowl+carbon&psc=1&smid=A3PKSUAVGUP5IE
     
  7. Anarion

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    Quite honestly I have never thought that the sound leakage is an issue. That being said I probably listen at lower volume than most. I do have HD 58X too and I don't think they'll leak that much. If there's some distance between you and her, I don't think there's a problem. Though, if she's listening at loud levels you probably want to go into another room since when you wear open headphones there's basically zero isolation.
     
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    Thanks bud, thats some info I was looking for, I've got enough to make decision now I appreciate all input. Peace everyone.
     
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    I'm in the process of getting a pair of sheepskin angled pads for HFM cans (HE560/HE4xx) and I was wondering if anyone has gotten such a pair of earpads before. Should I proceed with the purchase?
     
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    Are these ZMF pads by any chance ?
     

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    Nope, not ZMF.....seller assured me it's lambskin.....I have it now, and it does feel like lambskin when I compared it to the MrSpeakers lambskin pads on my modded T50RP. Initial impression on my HE4XX is the treble isn't less bright (if my ears aren't deceiving me, treble seems to be more sparkly), bass seemed to have been boosted a little.....I can't quite decide whether mids had been altered though, seemed about the same as before though I'll have to A/B between the stock and the new pads more to see if I can hear the difference. On the whole, it cost me about 30+ USD and I'm satisfied with what I'm hearing so far.

    Edit- Play some UT3, and yes, treble has gone more sparkly, the gatling/machine gun fire has become more 'metallic', more sparkly.....almost to the point where it irritates me. I've always felt the HE4XX has more treble energy than the HE560 and HE-4 (these eapads exacerbate that treble issue), will try these earpads on them instead.
     
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    I have finished framing and hanging my concert posters and the listening room is finally complete.
    It was a fun project and now there is nothing left to do but enjoy the music.

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    Thats a lovely room.

    I started building my Bottlehead Mainline headphone amp.
    So far the wooden base has been glued together and the top surface + transformer cap painted with leftovers from repairing my car about 10 years ago :)
    They are in the oven curing, it stinks in there!
    Next will be sandpaper and T-cut to smooth any dust bumps, and car lacquer which will also be applied to the wood.
    Then more oven time for the metal parts.
    Unfortunately I may not have pictures before applying primer, I forget to take pictures.

    When the soldering starts I will create a thread.
    Its slow going right now.
     
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    Thanks, it was a fun project.

    I look forward to the build thread.
     

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    My SXFI package came last night, a pair of Creative Aurvana SE was included in the purchase. Not a bad pair of cans, but I find it lacks details......made treble sound kinda fuzzy, much to my chagrin. Anyway, I'm putting the SXFI amp thru its pace with my HD600 (will try my HD800 and AKG K812 later), so now, tally ho and on with the potato pics!:D
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    I curious on how well it will work with games, when you get a chance, you think you be able to test it out in games and movies?
     
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    Impressive for the price.

    I had a valve DAC using the AKM 4490 and 4497 in dual mono mode (+3dB s/n), user interchangeable chips.
    I only got to try PCM. The firmware update for the 4497 chips to support DSD killed them. The DAC did a slow downhill of death from then on.
    The 4497s were fantastic, very detailed and engaging yet laid back.
    The 4490s had all the character with the tip of the detail missing. A very nice listen but I really wanted that detail on top.
    This was a £1K+ DAC. The Topping with AKM 4493 DAC, for the price, brings a lot to the table.
     
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  20. GenClaymore

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    Yea my Jotunheim dac module uses AK4490, for me it was too bright with a small and 2D type of sound stage as the sound was V shaped. I tried to use it again but my ear's, it reminded me why I stopped using it. But I feel it may pair nicely with warm sounding headphones tho. THe JVC HARX 330's which are my second pair of headphone's fair alright with the dac module, but not even the dac module could fix the HARX 330 lows as it made it worst.

    I find I have better luck with sabre based Dac's which why the AE-5 pair's so well with the Jotunheim and my R70X in balanced. I'm still eyeing the SMSL SU-8 while wishing there were other option's in the same or near price range that also had balanced output and sabre dac chip. The Topping DX7S did look interesting to me, til I saw they had QC issue with the heat-sinks inside the unit's, when they not installed correctly ontop of the components. I saw some one had to manually open up there DX7S and fix the heatsink and it seems that they may not been the only one.

    Gustard used to have cheaper option's for Dacs but now a days they all way over 700+ dollars, I can't even find a used Gustard X12, so I can move back to it, I do miss having that Gustard X12 and I still kicking my self from selling it years ago. Even Audio-GD balanced dac modules are well over 700+ too.
     

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