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help i wanna upgr to 643000 or 642800

Discussion in 'Consoles & console games' started by Pirates, Jun 10, 2005.

  1. Pirates

    Pirates Member

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    I just wanna ask is there any big differences between :

    Athlon 643000 Socket 969 and
    Athlon 642800 Socket 756

    Is the difference on performance are big ? Because the difference at the price is big.

    What should i buy ?

    And what core are suitable for gaming? Newcastle, Clawhammer or what ?

    Thanks before.
     
  2. Ray.Birch

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    I think you need to do a LOT more research into this before you take the plunge, because I'm seriously worried about your lack of knowledge!
    Firstly, there is a Socket 939 and a Socket 754.
    Secondly, you'll need a different motherboard for either socket - they're different sockets, so this SHOULD be obvious!!!!.
    Socket 754 only runs RAM in single channel mode, as opposed to S939 which can run dual channel, which can lead to big performance increases. S939 is more futureproof - S754 will slowly be phased out but is being kept for budget systems at the moment.
    All Athlon 64s are better than their p4 counterparts for gaming.

    The best budge core for the S939 is the Venice core.

    Bear in mind that whatever you get though, you'll need a suitable motherboard, and if it has PCI Express, a new graphics card too. A new PSU might be in the lineup too...
    Hope this helps,
    Please try and get some facts right next time though,
    Ray
     
  3. Jonny Manc

    Jonny Manc Ancient Guru

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    To put it politely:

    Best Core: Venice or San Diego
    Best Socket: 939 - This is the future

    You can still get AGP S939 boards, so a new GFX card is not a necessity.
    You would need:

    New CPU
    New Mobo
    New RAM (1gb recommended)
    Maybe new PSU (at least 350w True Power)

    Is it worth it?

    Hell yeah, if you can afford it, I get mass improvement on performance from my old P4!!

    Hope this helps (in a nicer way lol)
     
  4. Ray.Birch

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    I do apologise for my rather harsh post earlier today...unfortunately, I was rather hungover and technical help didn't seem to be my area of expertise after 3 hours sleep!
    What I was trying to convey was my concern over your misinformation on current technology, something that I think you might want to correct before you take the plunge as I said - I know I personally wouldn't want to be spending £200+ at that stage.
    However, I do just want to say once again that I am very sorry for the way I went about "helping" this morning :(
     

  5. Jonny Manc

    Jonny Manc Ancient Guru

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    Feelin yer hungover pain my friend!!:p
     
  6. Slam

    Slam Ancient Guru

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    Not much, if at all in games. Memory benches...definitely. :)
     
  7. Pirates

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    Upgrading

    Yeeeeaaaa i knew it, i must have new mobo and other thing. But thanks for help.

    Abit or the other, but i have seen a mobo which have AGP and PCIe slot on its board it's the cheapest biostar.
    Maybe a kingston DDR.
    I have 450W PSU.

    I want to throw all of my rig exept my GFX card. I think the good thing in my rig is only my GFX card. But with P4 and SDRAM what i got only a crappy performance. Dammn.
     
  8. Jonny Manc

    Jonny Manc Ancient Guru

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    I recommend:

    A64 3000+ Venice Core
    Gigabyte K8NSC-939 nForce3 (or similar)
    1gb (2x512mb) PC3200 DDR400 RAM (Geil Value or better)

    This setup will be a pretty decent start. Get a better mobo and RAM if you want to OC, but you can only have an AGP board because of your card and PSU. If you get a PCi-x (not the same as a PCi), you will need to upgrade your GFX card and your PSU!

    Good luck
     
  9. Terwin

    Terwin Master Guru

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    Er, PCI-X is different than PCI-E. I think you ment to say PCI-E. :)
     
  10. xiz0r

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    If you really consider the motherboard you mentionned (the one with agp and pci-e) take time to check to know if your gfx card is supported because those board only support a "few" card on the agp slot
     

  11. Jonny Manc

    Jonny Manc Ancient Guru

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    My bad, I was tired!!:O

    I meant PCi-E.
     

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