Health insurance just got canceled.

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  1. wootwoot

    wootwoot Master Guru

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promiscuity
    No, there isn't...have as many partners as you want. Just be responsible about it. Use preventive measures, and if not. Take responsibility for your stupidity.
    Currently, no. But as I said, there are extreme moral failings with this behavior. I don't know how any one could deny that.

    :confused:

    You mean like all socialist government policy's?
     
  2. scheherazade

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    The provided definition is subjective.

    "too many partners" - by who's standard?
    "indiscriminate" - by who's standard?
    "casual" - by who's standard?

    The person doing it could think it's not enough partners, they were quite deliberate about who they chose, and they don't consider it casual.



    Totally agree about personal responsibility.

    Morality [is a factor in abortion] if you subscribe to Genesis 1:1-31, and you subscribe to the authority of god, which not everyone does.
    [Morals] that can stand up with or without a religious foundation, are the kinds that are appropriate in an environment of religious tolerance and non-establishment.




    Like most government's policies. Socialist or not.

    Like I always say. There are only a few restrictions that are natural.
    Theft, trespass, destruction of property, injury/killing, and a couple others. Enough to count on your hands.

    Most of the many thousands of laws currently on the books are arbitrary legal demands that don't go beyond 'someone who wrote it liked it that way'.
    Lawmakers get caught up in playing "sim city".
    They tend to work towards a 'vision' that they personally have for the future - often at the cost of the people of the present (and too commonly 'people of the future' as well...).

    ... Not that I'm against extrapolations of the basics.
    Eg. Someone dumping trash on his property that rolls downhill onto your property, is still dumping trash on your property (trespassing).

    So I have no problem with say... the EPA preventing someone from dumping petrochemicals down a well next door and poisoning my water supply.

    But, for example, the change in patents from "first to invent" to "first to patent" is more sinister. Allowing companies to do a "land grab" on non-patented items, locking people out from selling things that they had been previously able to sell. It's handing over the nation to the biggest purse.
    Imagine a company patenting your genes.

    -scheherazade
     
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  3. Loophole35

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    Morals are common sense not religious I know atheists with more moral fortitude than most Christians.
     
  4. wootwoot

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    This, I'm not religious.
     

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    The label Christian is too loosely thrown around. Just because one believes in Christ does not make them a Christian. If all it takes is belief than the devil, the fallen one, is a Christian because the devil knows for a fact without doubt that Christ is the Son of God. Faith without good works is an empty faith. Christ stated that one would know who a true follower of his was by their deeds. Hence belief is not enough to be considered a Christian.

    Church is a tool for our benefit. Just because one does not attend Church does not mean that they will not be saved. All it means is that the correct path is more difficult to find and follow. Does not mean it is impossible. It also means that not everyone that attends Church is or will be saved. For evil to exist, it needs the ability to take something good and twist it into something it is not.

    Faith along with good works is needed. Not everyone is going to be successful one hundred percent of the time. That is what is meant to be in a fallen state. It takes a lifetime of work. That is why, by the time of my death, I hope I can be considered a Christian.
     
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  6. sykozis

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    Discussing religion is like discussing politics.....it's pointless and usually ends in arguments. Everyone has their own theories and beliefs on both subjects. Some are more than willing to force their beliefs down your throat as well....

    Yes, blame Obama for the failings of those that accept brides to screw us all over.... The health care industry is one of the most profitable industries in the US. They constantly push up costs with zero justification. As I said in a post a few pages...the last time my wife was in the ER for a seizure, we received a bill for $2000 for 10 phenobarbital pills. That's $200 per pill. At the time, we were paying $5 for 60 pills every month. That's just over $0.08 per pill from the pharmacy.... So, exactly why did the hospital see it fit to hike up the price from just over $0.08 per pill to $200 per pill?

    With or without "Obamacare"....your health insurance was going to go up. Hell, I paid $149/week for a family policy last year. That same policy this year? $329/week....I don't want to know what that policy will cost next year (with or without "Obamacare"). Obama and the Democrats wanted to force hospitals to reduce their billing to reasonable levels. The health care industry and their lobbyists ran ad campaigns full of lies talking about how it'd hurt doctors and reduce the quality of health care in the US (which quite frankly, sucks) while shoving money into the pockets of Senators and Congressmen to ensure that no bill would ever pass that could directly affect hospital profits.
     
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  7. Loophole35

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    ^If you want to blame anyone in our (US) government, it's the lobbyist. They are the destruction of our (US) society.
     
  8. sykozis

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    Congress made bribing an elected official legal as long as you're considered a "special interest group" or "lobbyist".....
     
  9. Loophole35

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    Of course they did. That does not make it "moral".
     
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    I living in the wrong state I guess.

    florida opt out of alot of healthcare options that save people money...:bang:


    insurance sites say im can get cheaper insurance. but the only problem is my state refused the option to give it.


    anyway I have to shut off my family plan cell service just so I can afford insurance. they not happy about it. but they where not helping to pay for it. and I had to pay it by myself. and I told them I disconnecting the services. and get your own service.

    I went to prepaid and pay it when I can.
     
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    My statement was poorly worded. Sorry.

    I was not saying that 'morality in general' is religious.
    (I tweaked my post to make that clearer.)

    I meant that the 'immorality of abortion' is dominated by the idea that it is disobedience of [the Abrahamic] god's command to procreate.


    Some of my more religious friends have trouble understanding how my cousin can say she's Catholic, when she doesn't believe in god.
    I tell them that Catholic faith and Catholic culture are separable.

    -scheherazade
     
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    The law makers write/pass the laws that fits their agenda, our Government has lost its way and is no longer a Government for the People!

     
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    I never said it did...but without such laws, our government wouldn't be as corrupt as it is. Which is why the blame should be placed on congress.... They're the ones with the authority to pass such laws and do so when they see a personal benefit from it.

    And it's their agendas that have caused most of the problems the US has..... Of course, if you challenge the government they'll view it as an act of treason and not as a constitutional right.

    The drafters were not ignorant and seemingly had an idea as to where the government would eventually lead.....
     
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    First I've heard of that being the reason.

    I always thought it was about the killing of a life.
     
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    Health insurance just got canceled...Part 2 Thread please......:)



    Love Ya PhazeDelta1 :)



    Edit: I wanna talk about the website that saves you Money?

    According to Obamacare.Com...

    My rates/taxes/health payments are $1740 per year more.............

    What say you?
     
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  16. Brasky

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    how are you guys still in this thread? i mean you cant argue or present facts to the liberals that are in lock step with the party. it's time to just smile and nod. they won, America is going to be a socialist state like Europe where the only successful people are in government and the rest of us work to support the government. Just get in early, smile and nod.
    Sincerely,
    Me
    Heil Obama

    (yes yes, i know, barack is the smartest, best looking, greatest man to ever walk this earth) I <3 Him

    Another quick edit, if you disagree with me an any way you are a racist, ageist, homophobic, troglodyte who is afraid of change and progress.

    Quick Edit, again, Of course there are successful people in europe not affiliated with the government and my generalization was not meant to offend anyone at any time or any place or for any reason.
     
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  17. Ryu5uzaku

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    Well at least you have no idea about europe if you think only successful people are in government lol...
     
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    Yeah. It's like they never heard of sir Richard Branson, the multi-billionaire.

    He left school at 16 and never attended university, FYI.
     
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    what would of happened if we would voted for the other guy and became president?

    I had no problems with my insurance and this president had to go and change things.
     
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    another disclaimer i have to put in, my bad. i'll add that soon to make the statement easier to read for the special people.
     
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