HD4870 Need assistance please!

Discussion in 'Videocards - AMD Radeon' started by Gil80, Nov 29, 2008.

  1. Gil80

    Gil80 Active Member

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    Hi guys.

    I want to buy an ATI HD4870 instaed of my GTX9800.

    Here are my questions:
    1. How does 1GB is better then 512MB on the GPU? (higher resolution?)
    I work @ 1600x1200 (20 inch).

    2. There's the Sepphire Toxic 512MB edition, is it better then 1GB since it's OC'ed and has better cooling?

    My RIG:
    Intel E8500 C2D
    2x2GB Corsair 4 4 4 12
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    Thermaltek 750W
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    Vista 64.

    Thanks.
    Gil.
     
  2. Vector

    Vector Ancient Guru

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    Search for reviews for the video cards that you are interested in.
     
  3. Gil80

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    I was looking for more immediate answer.
     
  4. solofly

    solofly Banned

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    1600x1200 with 512mb is a borderline if you ask me. Let me ask you this, how long are you planning to keep this new video card, a year, two?
     

  5. Gil80

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    I guess a year or two as you said.
     
  6. jimlad

    jimlad Master Guru

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    will you be playing the latest games as and when they come out? will you want kick ass performance?
     
  7. PixelPerfect

    PixelPerfect Member Guru

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    DONT DO IT!!

    Just keep your card and bye a GTX 260 for e.x!
    That way you get a nice PhysX card for free, and the new for gfx heaven mate :D

    And you do know that a GTX 260 just kills a 4870 and as you have a nVidia card you are STOPID if you go ATI, as I told ya your old card will be a nice PhysX card, so what are you waiting for.

    Havent you seen the vid for the upcoming Mirrors Edge ?
    There you have physics and you dont get that with ATI!

    As you know nVidia totaly owns the market and go ATI is defenetly like shooting yourselfs in the foot, very stupid as you allready have a PhysX card for free :D

    PhysX is the future and nVidia is pushing for it very hard and the devs just loves it so be sure of that you will see a flood of PhysX games soon and if you go ATI you surely will cry later on. trust me thats the simple truth!
     
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  8. Symbiosis

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    Both cards are on par with each other, just because nvidia being out an optimized driver for a few games does not make it a 4870 killer.....ATI are bringing their own performance driver out soon and then we'll see what happens ;-)

    Back on-topic.....if your keeping the card for the next 1-2 years then I would personally opt for the 1gb version, the extra framebuffer will come in handy as it appears that alot of the latest games are eating up memory, also if you use lots of AA then the extra memory will help.
     
  9. GeoD

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    either card would be a substantial upgrade from your 9800 gtx. i went from a 8800 gt to my 4870 and the difference was very apparent. all games had a large improvement in FPS. Stalker CS showed the largest gain. i say this because other than clock speeds my old gt and your current gtx are almost the same card, except my gt's 16 fewer shader processors. i would recommend that you buy the 1024 variant as at your resolution the extra memory would help especially when you turn on AA. Another possibility would be to buy a gtx 260 max core as those are now priced around the same as the 4870's and they give better overall performance. However, keep in mind that ATI is releasing a new driver in a few weeks that is supposed to have major improvements and optimizations. Especially for the 4870's. Either would be a good decision, but i would get the 1024 if you go ATI.

    And as for using the 9800 as a phyisx card, it could be done but check and make sure your PSU has enough amps to do the job.
     
  10. cmdrdredd

    cmdrdredd Master Guru

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    Haven't you played that game? It's easily the WORST game of the year. Thanks EA :puke2:

    Physix doesn't even matter. The game is the exact same thing whether you have it or not. Until you fanboys find me a game that requires physix as part of the gameplay and where an ATI card can't play the same game, and that game is so amazing you have to buy a Nvidia card just because it's so awesome, Physix is not a selling point.
     
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  11. solofly

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    Total fanboy...
     
  12. Gil80

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    I had the GTX 9800 by Gigabyte and its drivers suck with Vista. I had enough with Nvidia releasing problematic drivers, as well as Microsoft.

    I go for ATI no matter what. That physx bullcrap won't matter much. Game performance is more dependent on core clock speed and RAM, all the filters are luxury.

    I'm looking to buy the HD 4870 1GB Sonic Dual Edition by Palit

    http://www.palit.biz/main/vgapro.php?id=969
     
  13. Anarion

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    My 9800 GTX+ SC is quite a bit faster than my 8800 GT (which replaced second computer's broken X1800 XT) and OC'd 9800 GTX+ is faster than 4850 which means it's quite close to 4870 (not always slower). So upgrading to GTX 260 or 4870 512mb is not wise in my opinion because he wouldn't gain much. Usually you barely notice 10-15% difference (and if game averages at 40 fps 10% more is almost nothing).

    4870 1GB might be fast enough compared to 9800 GTX to justify the upgrade but I wouldn't do that. At this point it would be best to wait 55nm GTX 260 and 280 cards (or what ever they will be called).
     
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  14. phantomsys

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    I have the Palit 4870x2 and I had the 8800gtx before that. I also use a 24" LCD at 1920x1200 everything set to ultra on Far Cry 2 runs smooth as could be. I also like the HDMI out the drivers are funky dut if you take the time to find the problems it runs great.My Nvidia card also ran fast but was to slow for new games would play Crises full but slowed down on parts with lots of action.The Nvidia drivers never worked bad for me but I like the ATI drivers when you tinker with them you can find the problem and fix them makes you feel good about problem solving I just can't beleave how well my Far Cry 2 works now very smooth I don't think the game is as good as the first one.
     
  15. solofly

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    If you think 9800gtx is quite a bit faster than a 8800GT, then you have a real problem. (I think I know what it is) I currently use 8800gt, 9800gt and 8800gtx and there isn't much difference between them.. Pretty much everything you said I call BS.
     

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  17. wud03

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    From what I have seen, you don't really see a difference between the 2 4870s till you run games at 1920x1200.

    Read the guru3d review on 4870 v 260 and make up your own mind. I have the 4850; I am completely satisfied and I'm biased toward AMD/ATI in general. It's not that hard to look at unbiased facts and make up your own mind.
     

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