HBAO+ Compatibility Flags Thread

Yeah, Bulletstorm has issues with Fog, you are close to finding a working flag. Try 0x00000030 or 0x00000021 instead with BS and ME and see how they work.


I was gonna say 2F looked fine for ME, and that it's issues generally depend on the game. But the second set of shots show that it does AO around parts of the distance skybox. Which is just 2D textures with transparency.

But to be honest, it doesn't look *THAT* bad compared to Bulletstorm.


Still, ideally should try some other flags

 

Since it sounds like Dark Souls II's SSAO can be disabled, as soon as it's released, someone NEEDS to find a flag for it.

Just look at the grass in this shot

http://dl.pcgamer.com/LPC/darksouls2/darksouls2-full-06.png

My lawd it is horrible looking.

 

mr bonk i know these flags r not perfect but many of the games on the list have these problems too like mass effect 2 ill post images soon and i think finding perfect flag is not possible for every game but u r expert man and i just try to help tanxxx for ur efforts

 

People who have tested the current flag for ME2 say it's without major issue. You are right that you can't get a perfect result though.

But fogging isn't really an acceptable solution either. It somewhat defeats the point

 

ok ill try to get the best results tanxxxx

 

MrBonk, you can add Lost Planet 2 to the List of Games not recommended to use HBAO+ With, or is currently impossible to do so.
Today I tried literally all AO flags in the driver, both in DX11 and DX9 mode.

In DX11, "0x000A0000" increased VRAM usage and decreased both GPU usage and performance, without making any visual difference ingame.

In DX9, the problem wasn't finding a working HBAO+ flag.
Several flags can be used to apply an AO effect in LP2, including "0x0000002F", 0x0000000F", "0x0000000E", "0x00000026" and a few others.
The problem is that all of these cause rather severe fogging issues.
I also discovered, that "0x00000024", "0x00000027" and "0x00000002" increased GPU usage significantly in LP2 DX9, unfortunately without applying any AO effect.

 

somebody got a sucessable code for The elder scrolls online?
I tried some, but saw now difference

 

Thanks GKnight.

Also, about TSEO, you'd have to make sure you are using flags that include the 4th bit for compatibility with DX10+. Or run the game in DX9 mode first and then test flags

 

- Sonic Adventure 2 -
Flag: 0x000000012
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General Information: Nothing to report other than i'm surprised it even worked lol. 13 also works, and is much stronger, but has some very rare circumstances where it will bleed through a few things, but it's so quick that you barely even notice. I honestly prefer 13 over 12 in this specific game because it's so simplistic, graphically.

Picture of 13 bleeding http://i4.minus.com/iQGK4ZMIKRO5D.png
Pictures
No AO: http://i.minus.com/i15JmaEFTG77a.png
HBAO+: http://i.minus.com/ibhXZXwOI34sTN.png

 

In my opinion is all this "requesting" AO flags getting completely out of hand.
How about actually doing some work for yourselves, then write a small AO report with screenshots included and post the FINAL result here in the HBAO+ thread?
If everybody just requests and nobody actually contributes/creates anything, this thread is surely going to die out, which would be such a shame.
And NO, contributing doesn't mean trying 3-5 different AO flags in Inspector and then giving up :bang:

As already stated on page 1, try AO profiles of the form "0x000X0000" for DX10/11 and "0x000000YZ" for DX9 mode:

X=(1,2,...9,A,B,...F)
Y=(0,1,2,3)
Z=(1,2,...9,A,B,...F)

Alternatively I recommend studying the AO bit value editor in NVIDIA Inspector to figure out what each individual AO bit is doing, and which of these may affect your game of interest

 

there is no need for these formulas i think there is a few games worth our efforts to find flag for them and if there were for example 1000 games a formula were needed

 

It is not really a formula
I am just trying to demonstrate the difference between a DX10/11 HBAO+ flag and one for DX9.
Personally I only use the advanced bit value editor in NVIDIA Inspector to find AA, AO and SLI profiles.

 

- Alien Breed Trilogy -
Flag: 0x00000002F
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General Information: This is the only UE3 game flag that works, and also doesn't flicker on and off. It also isn't as overblown as 2F usually is.

Make sure you edit the "AlienBreedEp1Engine.ini" and set "Ambient occlusion=False" to disable the in game SSAO

Pictures
No AO: http://i.minus.com/ibzflFF7nDAivl.png
In game SSAO: http://i.minus.com/iEcmvW00Pbr6G.png
HBAO+: http://i.minus.com/iO09jiO7L7F59.png

 

According to PC Gamer and posts in the AA flag thread, the Dark Souls 2 HBAO+ flag is 0x0000001F (Demigod).

Source:
http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=4804794&postcount=1957
http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/04/21/dark-souls-2-pc-tweaking-guide/inspector/

 

I found a better HBAO+ profile "0x0000002F" for Aliens: Colonial Marines.
The official profile "0x00000030" does nothing except increase VRAM usage and bleed through menu elements and smoke.
Full details can be found in this post from the 3DCenter AO thread:
http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=10187423&postcount=77

 

Anyone know of a flag for NFS Underground 2?

 

You'll have to test for yourself, or someone will have to for you.

 

- Sonic & Sega All Stars Racing Transformed -
Flag: 0x00000000E
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General Information: Make sure to disable in game AO.

In the character select screen, it's applied a little strong, but in game it's pretty much perfect-O
It doesn't look like there's a lot at just the race starts. But it's there trust me. Especially with the track fly by before you start the race.
Pictures
No AO: http://i.minus.com/ijZja5DbWSYgH.png http://i.minus.com/ibgbVhYzsQS95k.png http://i.minus.com/iqDj2x84LCPNr.png
In game SSAO: http://i.minus.com/iSeCx0DUF1B5k.png http://i.minus.com/i0sxyULYNrGe0.png http://i.minus.com/isOPekT8Bc7zY.png
HBAO+: http://i.minus.com/ibf9crERDj8RpJ.png http://i.minus.com/iEYl54zLtd1hs.png http://i.minus.com/ik2ob9TDg6o55.png


Character select:

No AO : http://i.minus.com/iny4y7PUsCVH6.png
http://i.minus.com/iAXuGy02d0jBO.png
http://i.minus.com/iUorzwHYFDlFn.png
http://i.minus.com/ibzQ3HWrNT8ZF7.png
http://i.minus.com/idEvv4RlDl6n5.png
http://i.minus.com/ibzqgmQqz7U1Wo.png
http://i.minus.com/ijJsn0MRlNxAd.png
http://i.minus.com/ibuH8H9CXQ31rr.png
http://i.minus.com/iK8Pg6DOd5TN6.png
http://i.minus.com/ikIUzqTDE6NUe.png
http://i.minus.com/iqlcoZfbgAGe0.png
http://i.minus.com/ixkXyq9kFYFZ6.png
http://i.minus.com/iTy2aPLXAIvDE.png
http://i.minus.com/ilwo7zByxnBro.png
http://i.minus.com/i43VGpgFClMu3.png
http://i.minus.com/ibplDjjy9ysg0Q.png
http://i.minus.com/iIWw3rKZpfyuC.png
http://i.minus.com/i1E6jlPlasGkK.png



HBAO+:
http://i.minus.com/ib1roh8OyvAthn.png
http://i.minus.com/ib1whr1kUhT84h.png
http://i.minus.com/iblXeY1Vq7si8r.png
http://i.minus.com/iLOxn0rBKeR0s.png
http://i.minus.com/ibv4qFTwc6KEcJ.png
http://i.minus.com/ijsr7vD0IC6oE.png
http://i.minus.com/i5EOCtxKrZnhm.png
http://i.minus.com/ihKLfFml1MwBv.png
http://i.minus.com/iScFNXqytudgs.png
http://i.minus.com/ibhj5CjxkPGHyP.png
http://i.minus.com/iX1w1PsUIirM6.png
http://i.minus.com/ih2Le5jOeES3P.png
http://i.minus.com/ibskoppeajfzbg.png
http://i.minus.com/iGTdc4vgl4WoH.png
http://i.minus.com/ilJWC0sgVWSfn.png
http://i.minus.com/ib0JSalCF4osFL.png
http://i.minus.com/i83dF3vEvJY7b.png
http://i.minus.com/iOpno8q8Yia0x.png

 

Nice job with Sonic Transformed MrBonk
But I do find it a little strange why you would make so many screenshot comparisons, and none of them with forced SGSSAA or OGSSAA?
Testing without forced AA is fine, but taking screenshot comparisons without any AA is probably not a good idea, since the nice HBAO+ can easily be overlooked due to all the aliasing

I also have a few minor corrections to the excellent and thankfully ever-growing HBAO list.
The reference for "Aliens: Colonial Marines" should point directly to this link:
http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=10187423&postcount=77

It is much "neater" that way, and the HBAO+ list appears more professional like this IMO.
Having links to other links is always a bit silly, if it can be avoided.

Furthermore, it would be great if you could make proper references with screenshots for some of the remaining "major" titles appearing in the list, like "Arcania" and "Lords of Shadow 2"
I'd imagine especially Arcania is one of those games, that really benefits from HBAO+ due to all the trees and vegetation.
Unfortunately I don't own either Arcania or LoS 1 & 2, so can't do it myself.
If someone else wants to do this, that is also fine.

Finally I think only "0x00000009" should appear in the list for Gothic 3.
"0x00000028" works OK, and causes no fogging or other issues.
But as I already mentioned, it creates a lot of additional temporal aliasing especially on grass.
This is very apparent in motion compared to "0x00000009", even with 8xSGSSAA forced.

 

I find it easier to focus on HBAO+ and the general performance hit without AA added. I do test with AA enabled. But for the sake of seeing the differences in an image with lots of high frequency content (IE: Aliasing) I find it easier for comparison for me personally.


I probably still have the screenshots for ArcaniA, but since my flag for LOS2 was shown to have issues I don't have any images for the new flag that someone tested and I thought had posted shots for.