Guru3D: PhysX by NVIDIA - A review of what's to come next week ...

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    I noticed the massive amount of response on the leaked PhysX driver.


    PhysX by NVIDIA
    Next Tuesday NVIDIA will introduce a new set of GeForce drivers, PhysX driver and a PhysX pack. All GeForce series 8 and newer cards will get full PhysX support with a little help of the guys from Ageia and NVIDIA's CUDA team. We take a peek at what is released next week, what can you expect, what combo's are possible and obviously our opinion on the entire PhysX experience.

    Find the article right here ...
    http://www.guru3d.com/article/physx-by-nvidia-review/
     
  2. redrumy3

    redrumy3 Master Guru

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    nice so new drivers and physx drivers...awesome
     
  3. Barton C++

    Barton C++ Master Guru

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    great, got a couple of physx questions already!


    * for starters, physx with single G92 card reduces fps to 66% ? (run UT3)

    * SLI'd G92 cards with physx, same fps as with single card w/o physx (the 2nd takes physx part alone) - this seems like a waste for SLI GTX 280 buyers

    * Saving up old cards for physx makes the most sense

    edit /// soz, should have read the article first..but hey, here is the thread for questions anyhow :D (spotted the single/sli/multi gpu with physx explanation)
     
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  4. archie123

    archie123 Ancient Guru

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    It does , thus making SLI in physX games not an option.

    Better off with the pci Ageia card then.............. ;)
     

  5. Anarion

    Anarion Ancient Guru

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    Thanks a lot! Really great stuff!
     
  6. Barton C++

    Barton C++ Master Guru

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    yes, why buy twice the cost nvidia SLI mobo than Intel PCI-e x1 ?, and use expensive nvidia gfx card for physx...better off with old PCI original card (here come the crossfired bananas :banana: )
     
  7. Cybermancer

    Cybermancer Don Quixote

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    Is it going to be possible to run two cards in SLI and then use a third one for PhysX?
     
  8. Anarion

    Anarion Ancient Guru

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    It's just sad that ATI/AMD does not support CUDA. It looks like I will get 9800 GTX+ or GTX 260 since this stuff looks so promising. (Even though Crossfire 4850 is really tempting).
     
  9. FuriousAngel

    FuriousAngel Member Guru

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    Did you do a check on older computers/CPUs for that matter? I've got an So939 x2 4200+ running at 2,5Ghz with an 9800GTX, and I get between only 5-20fps in those UT3 PhysX levels (at 1280x960). So I assume it's not only a matter of GFX card but also CPU. Or not?
     
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    domen Master Guru

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    Ah damn. This makes me wanna get GTX280 instead of 4870X2. Or could i truly use 88GTX in 4x PCI-e slot + 4870X2 in 16x? Decisions, decisions and this makes it even harder. :biggun: Thing looks awesome, but it's a pity that there aren't many games that support it. Similar thing is with tessellation on ATi GPU's. So many great new technologies and none are truly used.
     

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    Hello!

    Just like Cybermancer said... Is it possible to SLI two cards and take a third for physx? That wasn´t mentioned in the (p)review...

    And why didn´t you try UT3? I mean sure you don´t like it but hey...you complained about not having a new game to check performance and then skip UT3? :3eyes:

    Come on...borrow it from a friend or I don´t know... don´t want to sound rude :angel:
     
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  12. Joshua

    Joshua Ancient Guru

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    So I noticed this:

    Dude, am I getting a free game? lol

    Edit. Okay, so read down a few lines and yes. . . I'm getting a free game. wOOt! Free games FTW!

    Hey, another question. For those with ATI cards, what if they purchased an 8series or later Nvidia card. Could they run physx on the Nvidia card, while the ATI card does the rendering? Just a thought.
     
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  13. Cybermancer

    Cybermancer Don Quixote

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    You can already download for free here:
    http://www.warmongergame.com/downloads.php
     
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    Maybe this isn't the place to say this....but I'm not impressed with the physics at all.

    I guess being able to see the wind blowing and being able to see debris fly without actually FEELING it just makes it seem out of place and over-done.

    Maybe I'm just missing something though.:3eyes:
     
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    It's an incredibly tiny demo, and the actual gameplay is rather horrible.
     

  16. Straykatt

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    I think physics are great! This will only improve gamming. Who doesn't want more on the screen anyways..

    What's the story when hooking up say a 9600gt to handle the physics? Does it need to be connected to the monitor to? I'm using a lcd tv for my monitor thats connectecd to my 8800gtx through a hdmi cable. Now if I installed the 9600gt as well, would I have to get a new cable to connect them both?
     
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    Missed Ageia Scaling

    Nice article, missed the 9600vsAgeia PhysX shootout, things to look at :
    - Performance per watt regarding 9600vsAgeia card
    - SLI for graphics & Ageia card vs. PPU&GPU SLI shootout

    Remember: this card is still for sale at major retail channels in both PCI & PCIe.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143055 ( BFG PCI )
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121246 ( Asus PCIe )

    Kinda missed opportunity ? Or NDA p1mp ? The CPU comparison however was amazing :)
     
  18. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    No mate.

    These cards are EOL, won't be sold much longer nobody buys them and this is why they are still available (look at the BFG offering, it's already EOL), + they are more expensive than a GeForce 9600 GT. Fact is that a 9600GT has much more horsepower and stamina than one Ageia card.

    Please, forget about the Ageia cards. In the end support for them will be killed off as well.
     
  19. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    At this time yes, you'd need a second cable connected. NVIDIA however is trying to get that fixed and more user-friendly.
     
  20. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    I'm checking in on that with NVIDIA. Will hopefully have an answer by tomorrow.

    UT3 wasn't used, because I never purchased the game.
     

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