Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by HWgeek, Aug 5, 2018.
Are they giving out sales numbers somewhere? Would be interesting to read.
Yes, on site, product page - https://www.mindfactory.de/product_...per-1950X-16x-3-40GHz-So-TR4-WOF_1185415.html "über 1.150 verkauft". Some guy on reddit collects data from there https://imgur.com/a/QsPScZq#9PgMlkB .
who cares about singlethread in HEDT so much, you said...
The same people that buy High End Desk Top cpu's
Aparently not you
There are more people that caring about high singlecore performance than extreme core count. Why not have it all?
I use 7980xe as maincomputer for work AND games. My 1950x is in the main ubuntu server
You're right, I didn't compare apples to apples.
It's a clock difference, plus IPC margin.
And what's the difference? With 1950X you can do the same, especially at resolutions of 1440p+ (which is usually correlated with the High End Desk Top). And it will cost 80% cheaper only on the processor, not including other costs / cancellation of the warranty. Perhaps you'll buy a new i9-9900K and put it in the toilet to read the guru3d. For other people, price-performance is important. What sales are talking about (for the last 3 months 7980XE/60X sold in the number of less than 10 pieces).
Yup. I run my system at stock since it's a 24/7 system at constant full load and I want rock solid stability (briefly tried overclocking but felt the extra heat and potential instability wasn't worth it).
I own Intel CPUs as well but I am unabashedly pro-AMD. Stop using this as an excuse to hide your obvious Intel bias.
No surprise there. The 7980XE is just terrible value overall and only a true Intel fanboy would buy one. I imagine it would be a similar story with the 2990WX and any 28-core Xeon rebrand.
Intel Turbo Clock Speed for 18 cores = 3.40GHz
AMD Clock Speed for 32 Cores = 3.00GHz
3.40/3.00 = 1.13 = 13%
Score per core per clock
Intel = 3,335/18/3.40 = 54.49
AMD = 5,099/32/3.00 = 53.11
Difference = 54.49/53.11 = 1.025 = 2.5%
My 7980xe is 30% faster with Optane 900p and 20% faster with 960pro nvme than 1950x @ 4k random read @ QD=1. I play with 3440x1440p with 2x 1080ti. Getting more fps in many games and min fps, than 1950x with the same gpu's. This is due to faster memoryspeed @ intelplattform and lower latency due to higher frequence.
PS: I'm a Performance fanboy, not a red or blue fanboy. Some people use money on smoke, boose and expensive cars. Other people use money on pc's
....and someone is using the computer just to post on guru3d forums
And what relevance does that have in the real world? I mean, my 960 EVO is capable of 3200 MB/s sequential read but I rarely see such speeds in everyday use. Do you see an actual impact on the workstation applications that you run or is this just benchmark numbers?
I bought a 1950X a year ago and have never played a game on it - that's what my Ryzen 7 system is for. I consider gaming to be far too wasteful on such a system and use it strictly as a computing machine. Judging HEDT systems based on their gaming performance would be like judging a Core/Ryzen 5 on its rendering performance - it's not what these CPUs are best suited for.
I have one PC for both Workstation AND gaming. You have one for gaming and one for f@h etc. Epic performance in gaming and Work/etc is pretty epic. 7980xe overclocked with 4000 c17 memory has pretty much the same performance in all games as 8700k. Sometimes better in a few games that use many cores. For me, this is the best. For you, I do not care
Aparently you don't work on you're pc. Good for you
No, you have multiple computers (1800X, 1950X, 7980XE), except you choose to play games on a workstation CPU for some reason. I have multiple computers as well, but I don't game on my workstation system, nor would I ever (that's not the reason why I bought it). It's been said repeatedly, by many people, here and elsewhere, that HEDT chips are not gaming chips, and yet you continue to judge them based on their gaming performance (makes me think that you don't understand the value of these chips).
I think AMD just gone for 5.1Ghz just to S*** on Intel's 5Ghz mark and get the Top Score, Because if they wanted to go Crazy they could Made Special crazy MB with 1500W output VRM like Intel Did and then they could gone over 5.5 easy on LN2.