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  1. Roger_D25

    Roger_D25 Ancient Guru

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    What driver are you using?
     
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  3. Lane

    Lane Ancient Guru

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    some result... i have put the 6700@3.6.. 720mhzDDR for try ( no optimisation stock timings)

    I have not will pass time optimisate the DDR for this run, but i think i m perhaps lucky and have the Micron.. many say the Promo's can OC at all.. or it seems mine can get 920mhz without tweaks.. just with upping the voltage..
    but i need make more test.

    all bench without reboot, X1950 +X1900:760/1130mhz , 760/860mhz
    (X1950 OC with Winclock 5.22, 1.5V on core, stock on memory.. the X1900 with ATi tool 25.14b... ) i can get more.. the X1950 looking like OC really well.. and the X1900 can give more of 800/900


    3D'01: 60'808 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9106094
    my first 60K, .. Im glad it was a point i will touch with this E6700..
    3D'03: 41'815 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=5095199
    clearly not the best with this setup.. i think CF drop after test 1
    35'05: 21'417 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2401537
    35'06: 12'733 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=742381


    the waterblock i use for the CPU is a ***.. bad contact (condensator trouble the contact, the waterblock touch them..), and some test of it give deception.. I have trust Innovatek was allways as good for qualitly and perf.. it's seems it's not that... if the waterblock Coolmatic are amzing in term of quality and performance, this CPU waterblock don't fight in same category..

    i m looking for get a Nexxos and a Vapochill in 2 weeks..
    (here i can get the Vapochill Titan Extreme II, prébuild case, i will certainl go for it, it will be enough, or i go for Vapo. LS 775) can't wait get this CD2 at more of 4.xxghz

    (Roger.. no.. i have 2 loops..since i use SLI and then Cfire... i use different different loops for both... this permit me me use cool CPU and GPU's differently.. i have see a new p5 chip h20 cooler by MIPS look cool:
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    <<edit<.

    < New ATi Tool is out: 26.0
    http://www.techpowerup.com/atitool/

    i have not have time test it..
     
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  4. Roger_D25

    Roger_D25 Ancient Guru

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    Lane,
    Those are great benchmark runs, that E6700 has really allowed your cards to screem! I imagine from your benchmark scores that you have gotten a pretty big increase in scores from upgrading to E6700 from AMD 4800 X2?

    If I read correctly your going to get a Vaporchill unit soon, that is pretty hardcore Lane! From what you wrote it looks like your going to get either the Vaporchill Titan Extreme or the LS775? What kind of money are the kits your looking at?

    I'm sorry to hear about your first waterblock not fitting correclty but it sounds like you got an even better block from MIPS? I've never heard of MIPS before but I'm going to check them out because the block you posted looks pretty cool!

    Talking about watercooling, I had posted my temps about a week ago because I was very worried my temps are much too high despite having watercooling. Well I was using nTune to monitor my temps and decided a couple days ago to try both "CoreTemp Beta" and Intels "Thermal Analysis Tool". Both of these programs measure my CPU temperature to be much lower than nTune did and after comparing the results I got from those programs with others they seem to be more accurate than nTune and about 10C-15C cooler as well!

    Last but not least guys I finally was able to find one of Danger Dens new DD-8800GTX waterblocks and bought it! I was very suprised to find one because I've been searching on a daily basis since I got my card and couldn't find it anywhere!

    The only thing that stinks is that I purchased a Swiftech MCW60 GPU waterblock along with their G80 adapter plate which allows it to mate with the G80's hole pattern. I bought this block because I didn't think that the DD unit would ever become available. They both have their pros and cons but the pros won out over the Swiftech block so I'll have to try selling the MCW60 and adapter plate. The main reason I went with the DD unit was because it's very hard to find decent heatinks for all 26 components that need to be cooled on the GTX, it can be done but it's very difficult. The DD unit is simple, looks great, and will hopefully lower temps significalty! In any case I'll do a full review of the unitl after I get it installed (along with pictures of everything and lots of results)!
     

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    MikeMK Ancient Guru

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    Well, this is the block im waiting for. Should be available by Xmas i believe:

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    Looking v.nice indeed. How does that DD perform? u got it setup yet?
     
  6. Roger_D25

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    Ah, that is the EK guy I was reading about either here or over at XS forums! That is awesome Mike, it looks fairly similar to the DD block (at least in shape and design but I think the EK block looks a bit nicer)! To answer your question Mike, no I don't have the block yet, although it will be delivered Tuesday afternoon so it should be up and running Tuesday night!

    Given the heat this card producing I'm glad I made the upgrade to the Thermochill because my old BIP just wouldn't have the capacity to handle it (while still maintaining resonable temps)? I purchased the block for $112.99 on Friday and since then I've been searching for a review on it but havn't had any luck at all? I can't be the only one who's got/goinig to have one of these darn things! My Swiftech MCW60 with G80 mounting hardware will be here tomorrow, not sure if I'm going to sell it or try both cooling solutions and just use the best one? If I could just find some sinks I'd be good to go!

    Do you have any idea what that block will sell for Mike and if it will be available in the States? I can't wait, it will be so much nicer than the stock cooler, I'm sick of running at 60C+ all the time!
     
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    I have no idea if it will be available in the US, i would have thought it will though.

    I believe it will be a similar price to all his other full cover blocks, so about £45ish. Compare that to current DD full cover blocks which are £80+ and thats a good price. I think the DD G80 might be a bit more than £80 too.
     
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    Wow, that is a great price! No wonder this guys blocks are so popular and hard to comeby!
     
  9. Lane

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    yes really happy with this E6700, the gain is incredible.. more cause the Cfire setup is really limited by the CPU... i m far to have an optimal OC with it, and it seems my X1950 can easy compare his core clock with my X1900XTX, so.. only happyness in this end of year..

    Like i have money, and like there's a long time i will build a Phase change, can't resist more.. Here the Vapochill LS 775 can't be found.. but my pure luck a shop have become the official Vapochill / asetek reseller for Switzerland, and they have a Vapochill Titan Extreme II, socket L775 in stock.. ( the prébuild case) and finally the price is cheap... i dion't know again, the Light speed is more powerful.. (-60°C vs -45°C i think )..
     
  10. Roger_D25

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    You got a very decent E6700 Lane, 3.6Ghz stable is pretty impressive! You might have already mentioned it but what voltage are you running to your CPU? This question goes to you to Mike?

    I'm going through some tough times with my setup unfortuenlty! The first problem is that I'm still very new to this Intel stuff so tweaking has been difficult to say the least! I'm also having problems getting this L630 stable at only 3.0Ghz (even at 1.45v BIOS)? I just got out of class for the day so I've got the whole afternoon/enving to work on it and that is what I'm going to do!

    There are many people having very good luck with their E6600 but not many of them have this newer stepping, maybe it's just a matter of putting more VCORE to it as this motherboard has some major VCORE droop unfortuenlty! Plus it's tough to measure the VCORE off the board using a DMM since it has to be done from the backside of motherboard?

    I'm also going to lower the multipler and give it another go. If you guys have any general idea's or suggestions that I'm missing out on please let me know, at least then I'd be heading in the right direction.
     

  11. Lane

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    i put 1.48V on it.. i don't know if it's too much or not,
    But i have try more (->1.5V) for 3.8-3.9ghz look stable but was coming out with this problem of waterblock...
    i have see peoples with B1 step don't pass through 1.4V-1.42V for get really more.... i have see up the 3 voltage ICH. MCH, (and can't remember the 3th name) help a lot...

    the cooler i have show. is not for CPU, the MIPS is for watercool the chipset parts, on Asus p5 series ( i think all p5.. need see the Nvidia, but it's really new-..)... it's definetevely needed on Intel if you will High FSB..

    It's not you Roger, the Asus i got have a real simple bios.. when you have the info of what you need tweaks.. it begin be easy.. the bios is simple.. but useful.. it's a real solid board for OC. the board do what you ask to it... then it's a question of cooling.. and don't forget OC a 6700 is really more fast.. but not more optimal when you OC a E6600.. High FSB look fine with I965chip.. we use I975X chipset, and it's a little bit more hard to get.. but at same time in this Asus..lower FSB seems not kill performance a lot..

    with this board,..at start you just up the FSB and with the multi at 10x.. you don't need a lot.. with asyncrone DDR settings.. you just up a little bit voltage of memory, or choose a lower speed for them...

    Hope you will get it soon... Dont' think i know what i do.. cause many settings stay a misstake for me, and like you i m a big newcomer in intel..


    Nice block.. it's look amazing
     
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    Nice job! I make that £50.74p not bad at all! :) Might have to order one of those LOL!
     
  14. Roger_D25

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    I hope you do get one Mike as I'm very curious about how it will perform compared to the DD solution so keep us updated please! I'm pretty excited because my new DD-8800GTX full-coverage block arrives in about 3hrs, can't wait to give it a try! The amount of heat that card dumps into the case (despite most of it being pushed out the back of case) is substantial for sure! I can feel the heat radiating from my card if I just put my hand close to it.

    My other block arrived yesterday but I'm not sure which one I'm going to stick with yet? I got the Swiftech MCW60 with the G80 mounting kit, if I can find some decent heatsinks for the other components on the card than I'll give it a go and see how it performs compared for the DD-8800GTX. The only thing I'm worried about with the full-coverage block is that not all components will make contact with block, hopefully it's machined well and will work decenlty?

    Depending on when it actually gets delivered and how much time I have I'll make a small review of the block with pictures, temperatures, and installtion notes so that others will have some idea as to how these full-coverage blocks will perform on the GTX, if of course anyone would even be interested that is, lol!

    EDIT: If anyone knows of any decent stepping E6600 or E6400 processors please let me know as my L630A9 is struggling at 3Ghz on 1.48v(BIOS) despite lots of tweaking!
     
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    I dont think u will have any contact probs with the DD. Its designed to cool all those components and they are usually pretty good.
    As for me, i will be waiting for coolercases.co.uk to get them instock, as they sell EK stuff. That will save me getting it shipped from Slovenia, also if anything is wrong with it (such as it has a massive scratch accross the bottom or something) its alot easier for me to send back!
    Not sure how long it'll take them to get them, a week or 2 i would have thought.
     

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    Roger.. Dino have make this thread on I4.. perhaps can help you a little bit..

    http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=3443

    ( i need go work now.. i have not read it.. i just hope some info can help you a little bit.)
     
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    Well I'm at school right now because my computer is completely pulled apart all over my apartment so I have no internet access. Fortuently I'm done here at school and looking forward to returning home to finish build!

    My initial review is very good, the build quality and machine work is top notch. The kit comes with everything you need for installation (thermal pads for I/O chip and mosfets, a tube of ceramic for core and memory, and all bolts, washers, and o-rings)! The instruction sheet leaves some room for improvment but fortuently I've done this before and didn't need them for the most part.

    The first thing I did was double check that all bolts holding the top plate were right along with the 1/2" ID barbs. I then thoroughly cleaned the block using Acetone but that was probably not needed. Last but not least I built a small loop consisting of pump, resovoir, and block and let it run for a good couple hours while I pulled my rig apart and took the stock heatsink of the G80. Luckily there were no leaks at all.

    After fully cleaning the G80 (really took my time) I test fit the block which made almost perfect contact with all components (core, mem, mosfets, and I/O chip)! Once I tightened the block down the contact was just great, much better than I thought it would be! At this point it was about 11:30pm so I hit the sack, now that I'm done classes I've got all day to finish it.

    Yesterday I ended up getting a northbridge 680i waterblock along with an active Evercool VGA heatsink which I'll use on the southbridge, so I'll pull system part again this weekend to install those componts but can't wait because the cooling should be noticably better! Well take it easy guys and I'll hopefully posts some numbers tonight if I get this thing up and running!
     
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    So when we gonna see the pics ;)
     
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    yeah come on roger, lets c this bad boy up n running
     
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