GTX260 or HD4870

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  1. flimbo

    flimbo Master Guru

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    Not sure which section to put this question in, Nvidia or ATI but...
    Looking to upgrade my gfx card from an 8800GT to either a GTX260 or HD4870.
    Which one is best?
     
  2. jmpnop

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  3. RKOver

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    ATI all the way.
     
  4. Anfield82

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    I agree with the post above. You can't really go wrong but I would be slightly more drawn towards the 260. You already have a Nvidia card so you might aswell stick with them.
     

  5. flimbo

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    Those 3 cards all sound good, they're all about the same price range...
    I will be gaming mainly at 1280x1024 and want to turn on all the eye candy and get good frame rates.
    What's best for gaming at that resolution and will the AMD dual core 6000+ be a bottleneck? Also is my PSU up to scratch?
     
  6. UZ7

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    Well at those resolutions the 8800GT should be able to handle most games at max settings. If you're going to move up to any of the 4870/4890/5770/GTX260 then you won't be using the full potential of the cards though if you upgrade to a 20-22"+ monitor then you'll be at those card's sweetspot. As for PSU a 600W should be good.
     
  7. jmpnop

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    5770 for DX11, my choice:D
     
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    >.>, -_-

    >.> buying Dx11 hardware at this point is going to net you ATI's version of the Geforce FX.

    Pretty on paper, but can't pump the effects.
     
  10. IPlayNaked

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    I don't think anyone thinks about the 4870 having DX10.1...everyone who compares ATI and Nvidia mentions Physx which is supported by maybe 10 total games, only 3 of which people actually play.

    But the DX10.1 isn't just going to be a book to the 4870 in HAWX, Stalker, and an unpatched Assassin's creed...it's gonna benefit the 4870 in most if not all DX11 games, as the 4870 will be able to take advantage of features, particularly the "speed" features of DX10.1 that will be built into DX11.

    Basically, the 4870 will see a speed boost in comparison to the GTX 260 in DX11 games, because of it's DX10.1 support.
     

  11. Decane

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    HD5770 or HD4870.
     
  12. Keitosha

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    Ahhh.... someone's being hurt. :bang:
    Pretty much like getting a GF8 back then for DX10, hmmm?

    Some people are making their preferences too personal. :3eyes:

    Ontopic:

    You can't go wrong with both cards really. They perform equally, but the GT260 has the slight edge of Physx. Going for an HD5770 is also a good choice, although i don't know how that card performs against the 260 and 4870.
     
  13. deltatux

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    I put my vote to the Radeon HD 5770, consumes less power, it's almost the same price, comes w/ Eyefinity AND DX11.

    deltatux
     
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    As many before said, both are great cards. But you should consider what titles you are currently playing and are planning to purchase. E.G. If you are considering to play titles that supports PhysX like Batman:AA and you consider PhysX a must have: NVIDIA might be better choice in that situation. But if you're playing titles like GRID or HAWX and you don't care about PhysX, HD4870 or HD5770 would be better choice.
     
  15. Squall Leonhart

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    More like 20, and the count is increasing.
     

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    Some of you are clearly newbies in the graphic cards game. its not about personal preference (though mine would still be nvidia for driver reasons), My point however is buying a ATI 5 series for Dx11 will net you the same issues that buying a Geforce FX did for the Dx9.

    both cards are compliant to the spec, but neither can manage to pump it out at playable frames at Typical gamer resolutions, in typical gamer (not enthusiast, ie, Crossfire) systems.

    In all honesty i was looking forward to seeing what ATI put out this time around but after looking at the GPU design and how it is managing its shaders, it became apparent that it would become ATI's black sheep. the Tessellator is being starved in many cases as the shaders are being under utilised.
     
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    If memory serves me correct, the first DX10 card (8800GTX) handled the first DX10 games just fine, and even still manages to pump out decent framerates. What's to say that the HD5xxx series can't do the same with DX11 titles?
     
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    http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_physxgames_home.html

    Yeah I've heard of 6 of those man. And two of them sucked...bad. And UT3 doesn't even count since it's just a couple maps.

    Pushing a card for Physx is like pushing one for Eyefinity...it doesn't make sense. Those are features that if you want them, you already know about them.

    Nevermind that you're trying to convince everyone that a 5870 won't be able to play DX11 games when there are no DX11 games to be played.

    Runs the Unigine benchmark just fine, at what would be considered playable frames, in DX11...so.
     
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  19. deltatux

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    Well, it's just for future-proofing oneself, I don't think it'll make sense by knowingly buying old tech when there's a new tech out (well if the budget allows ofc).

    deltatux
     
  20. Squall Leonhart

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    Heaven is a tuned benchmark.
    Games are rarely ever as optimised.

    Has Crysis taught you nothing?

    DX11 = DX10 + Tessellation + Multithreading (the only thing Dx10 can't do is the tessellation.

    Add the Tessellation at levels that the hard hitter devs will use and you are looking at a ATI 5 series paper weight.
     
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