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GTX 980 Ti Or 990 In The Next Few Months ?

Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Rich_Guy, Sep 20, 2014.

  1. eclap

    eclap Banned

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    970 performs on par with 290x, if not better, runs cooler, quieter and yet it's cheaper.
     
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    guts if u want ur titan2s .tis u must wait for 390x and if it one ups the 980...sad but true
     
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    My new card has arrived the new titan! I will be buying 2 of these oh yes indeedy doo. Had a feeling it would be on 28nm also like I said before, didn't think they would but they did.:banana::banana:
     
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    What? Titan2 released? Where? :eek3:
     

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    It would be very bad for us if GTX 970 did not show significant improvement. (Be it over 290x or 780Ti)
    It is very good in performance per transistor and therefore performance per watt since there is quire correlation between transistor count and power consumption.

    But we need bigger version with more horsepower not just 10% upgrade over much older cards. And there is spare TDP to be used.
     
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    If its a £1000 card i will buy 2 cards. Anymore than that and Nvidia can shove it just like the Titan-Z. Im a patient man, i can wait if i need too.:)
     
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    lol, This is the thruth... I've been i the game since 1997. I have owned every generation of 3dfx, nvidia and ati/amd cards. I don't trust the reviews. Seriously I own a gtx 780ti and a 290x there is only 2 games that i notice that the ti is faster @ 4k. The gtx 980 I think I am going to skip.. maybe wait for a ti version.. but right now I am waiting for a 390x.. it will be faster.. I'm sure it will never run as hot as my gtx 280 or gtx 480 that heats up the ****ing room.
     
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    There are many games where 780Ti is faster than 290x, even on 4k.
    But more interesting about 4k is performance impact on GTX 980.
    While GTX 980 performs equal better (or much better) than 780Ti across board @1080p, @4k performance impact in games is considerably higher on GTX 980 and it often loses.
    In benchmarks it does not get that kind of hit. I think it has to do with 4GB vRAM 256bit bus and close to incompressible textures choking it in some cases.

    But it is just interesting thing, since many wait for 8GB version which would choke if filled anyway.
    As far as 1080/1440p is concerned GTX 980 is innovative. And those resolutions are what most gamers play at.
     
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    It's faster, quieter, cooler. Also cheaper. All I'm saying is is making AMD 290/290x redundant, unfortunately.
     
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    Yeah you cant fault the 970/980 at 1440p, 2 of them is perfect.
     

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    Another preconception trying to become a myth busted by benchmarks:
    http://www.3dcenter.org/artikel/lau...ch-analyse-nvidia-geforce-gtx-970-980-seite-4

    According to averages taken across 8 review sites GTX 980 takes less fps hit than 780Ti when going to 3840x2160.
    (actually... basically the same perf. hit as 780Ti, but less since you're the one splitting hairs)
     
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    Oh, I thought it was already spec'ed or previewed somewhere. Two Titan2s would surely be more than enough power for 4k, I hope. Anything else would be somekind of a miss in my opinion.
    But aren't there rumors saying the Titan2 will be around in November or December?
     
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    You may very well be right, but not all sites are doing gaming benchmarks in same way:
    http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/09/19/n...-and-single-gpu-benchmarks-and-impressions/2/

    TR:O, Hitman:A, Batman:AO - there 780Ti wins.
    In Metro:LL 980 wins by a lot.
    They have likely maxed everything what they could.

    And simply Maxwell has different strengths and weaknesses and therefore there are bound to be situations when it is simply weaker (read gets higher performance hit from certain workloads).

    Don't take me as bashing this architecture, people will simply need to know what settings not to max out in those of games which allow setting it over visually affecting values but will affect considerably performance.
    Back then with HD5870m I had to prevent games to use more than 4x tesselation, it had visual impact so low and performance just died like in the famous "Cry me a river"sis. Since then AMD twice doubled tesselation performance so it is not issue anymore.
     

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    Actually, when compared to 780TI, there's 2 change in the maxwell architecture who greatly help with memory bandwith. The 64 ROP's ( who is the higher amounter ever used by Nvidia ) and specially the delta color compression ( could say similar of what AMD developp with Tonga )...

    Delta color compression is not really new ( 3th generation for Nvidia, AMD same but well without enter the details as the technic have evolved with the time ).

    Anand have a good cover it, allways good to read.

    Ofc, the technic have a limit...

    ( anyway, Theres many difference on review due to quality settings used across range of gpu's, that it can a bit blur the result on 4K )
     
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    No haven't seen that one. Reads funny with the translation, but still: 28xx Maxwell cores sure do have a lot of power! It will tear the original Titan apart with superior efficiency of power, higher per clock performance, and higher clocks!

    I just hope they release it late this year... I want to build that machine in 2014!
     
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    They will release it this year, its been ready for a while now.
     
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    I think it's just a matter of time, you know, competition. I would be interested in a 990.. :D
     
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    A 990 if well priced would be of interest to me tbh.
     

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