GTX 590s blowing up prematurely with small voltage increase

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  1. Redemption80

    Redemption80 Ancient Guru

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    The 5970 was only faster than the GTX580 when scaling was at its best, which unlike the 6k cards wasn't that often, so if you work out from the review on here, the 580 was 3-5% faster overall.

    I don't value price/performance in the slightest when im evaluating enthusiast products, if its not first, its last, though being that the 590 lost on both counts, its last in more ways than one.

    When it comes to buying for myself, since im not as rich as i used to be, i have to be very conservative, which is why i only got the 570 as it was £20 cheaper than the cheapest 6970.

    I do agree about going over the top with size, will only take you so far, and im not a fan of the brute force way of doing it, so i was happy to see Nvidia mess up the 590, tbh i think they would of gained more respect by bringing out a dual GF114 card that was cool, quiet and cheap.
     
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    2x GF114 cool, quiet and cheap would not be high end, could not battle 6990, and any OC-ing would skyrocket TDP

    2xGF110 is around the corner though.
     
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    I dont think the opinion was to battle the 6990, but to have a dual card priced at approx $2XGF114 that was 50% faster than GTX 580. with good overclocking ability.
    There is a nice price gap between the GTX 580 and the High end dual gpu cards.
     

  5. Mufflore

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    Can the 5970 get a decent overclock?
    When I buy a new card it is a consideration.
    This is one reason I avoided the GTX570, many have had VRM deaths.

    My GTX580 gets over 16% of useable overclock (ie its not too loud or hot), without pushing the voltage hard (900MHz @ 1.1V, 52C max).
    It will go faster, I just dont need it.
    This much overclock can really sway the results.
     
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  6. Noisiv

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    GTX 590 is what's 50% faster then GTX 580.

    GTX 560 is ~ 70% of GTX 580, so 150% is not possible with highly unrealistic 100% scaling.
     
  7. Redemption80

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    Yeah, was never considering it to be competition to the 6990, but two custom GF114’s, not and not necessarily 2 GTX560’s could have been very desirable at the right price.

    Only problem, it would have been admitting defeat, and considering the pricing of the 560’s it could of ended up competing against the 580.
     
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    Just realized that the over clock is worse performance to keep the card from blowing up..haha what a pos
     
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    Damn,higher clock/volt = lower performance. Nice one there nvidia.
     
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    well you could say that they had the faster card on the market hd5970 (but that's cause fermi wasn't capable or being a dual gpu), but i'm talking about a proper win, better performance in games, like hd6990 vs. gtx590...not comparing a dual gpu with a single gpu..that's not fair.

    edit: oh, and don't get me wrong, i'm no nvidia fanboy, i had only 1 nvidia card before this 480 and that was a 6600gt back in the day, since then only ATI cards..
     
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  11. John Dolan

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    I ran my 5970 overclocked to match my 5870 clocks in trifire it clocks well because it is a couple of 5870s on single card that are down clocked to 5850 clocks to keep power and temps down.

    http://www.guru3d.com/article/overclock-radeon-5970-guide/

    my 3dmark06

    http://3dmark.com/3dm06/15379746
     
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    i see you can't really notice what nvidia achieved with the gtx590, it's impressive they managed after all, a dual gpu with the fermi chip..also it's quiet and it's not that hot..yeah, it's under the hd6990, but i think they knew that, and i also think they couldn't go another year without a dual gpu solution..also you don't really need to OC that card..:)..let's be serious.
     
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    Ok lets be serious..the card is not impressive..it can barely jangle stock clocks agf thats for now...will it last a year? There?...they should of either went harder with better quality components our not made it period...lets also be serious...what enthusiast wont over clock that card?...its not the point whether you need it or not..hell you dont even need a 590 for playing console ports..so with that logic no point in any dual gpu's sli or xfire unless for eye finity or surround....regardless dont build sighing that can't take abuse when its high end..i really had high expectations and was considering this card b ut after the fails and no over clocking.. No way...sry for typos...on phone with swype
     
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    I agree, dual GPU cards are enthusiast parts, and are expected to have decent headroom when it comes to overclocking, its like buying a high end sports car, and it blowing up when you try and push it to its limit.

    Nvidia need to do a revision, and need to spend marketing money letting people know its one, got to be better in the long run for them.
     
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    well yeah, you both have a point..but i still consider the card a great piece of hardware..:)..and tbh, i would buy it if i had the money(and a different rig)..:)
     
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    Really?

    Its about the same performance as 2 570's which would cost me £480, while the cheapest 590 is around £580.
     
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    Like said you have to also consider the reliability even ay stock for long term use...if it can't handle minor clocks or voltage for days..who says it will hold stock for a year or better..they obviously built this cars right at its limits...which must mean reliability isn't there..everything is built for long term use cpus ram gpus etc which is why all of them have some sort of head room..where this doesn't..wouldn't chance my money on it
     
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