GTX 460 1gb or 6850

Discussion in 'Videocards - AMD Radeon' started by ocsystem, Jan 10, 2011.

  1. RS-X

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    Excellent DeerDance. Your explanation methods are remarkable. But I am still confused a bit? Does that mean a Default clocked GTX 460 and HD 6850 are as same as HD 5850. I really doubt that. As I know Both are slower then the HD 5850, even if they are little OCed.
     
  2. DeerDance

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    I just put the fps and other data I got from guru3d reviews in to table. But there are no default clocked 6850/460 there, hawk/cyclone6850/gigabyteSOC are all factory OC more than 10%. Plus guru3d don't have much reviews of 5850 so I just put there numbers I found which are most likely from actual release of the card(2009) so the low 5850 outcome can maybe be caused by ATI drivers or other stuff that changed in that time.

    I didn't bother much with 5850 because here in europe shops are still stubborn and average 5850 cost same or more than 6870...
     
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  3. RS-X

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    You are right The HD 5850 still cost more then HD 6870. But 6870 performs better then 5850 in every way. 6850 is only faster in tessellation but no other.
    And you are also right if you took the 5850 Fps from 2009. Back then there ware a lot driver issues but after Cat 10.3 a lot changed. oh,well my 3D mark 11 defult score is 3530 (+ -) in all stock systems.
     
  4. Redemption80

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    Furmark pic from a few months ago.
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    Overclocked enough, im sure both the GTX460 and 6850 would be faster than a stock 5850.
    I've saw 460's clocked to 900mhz that keep up with a 5870, but then again the 5850 could be overclocked past 5870 performance, but as said, they never got a price drop like the 5870's did.

    If you def plan to never Crossfire, then maybe even look for a cheap EOL 5870 somewhere, saw they got a further bump ahead of the 6k cards with recent drivers.
     
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  5. rflair

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    @Redemption80, what resolution and fan speed was your Furmark run at?
     
  6. Redemption80

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    I actually can't remember, it was a few months ago i think, but looking at the AR, i think it may of only been 1280x1024, as that is the default res, it is using 8xAA though.
    40% fanspeed, as this doesn't ramp up until it hits 70c.

    Can you re-run it with those settings, as i can't at the moment, as im in work.

    Edit: Yeah, it would of been 1280x1024, as was in response to the 6850 review on here which used default Furmark settings.
    http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6850-6870-review/11
     
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    I can easy reach 970/1150 stock volts 74c load furmark :)
     
  8. sykozis

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    MSI support is a bit lacking....wishing I had gone with eVGA for my GTX460. My card is quiet and stays cool....and overclocks very nicely, but from a support standpoint, I think eVGA would have been a much better choice.

    nVidia's driver support has been pretty poor lately. Drivers have been slow coming...just over 2 months between driver releases. People are complaining about stability issues with the current driver.

    I own no PhysX games...and the only CUDA app I run is F@H when I can...

    My card peaks at 60C in Furmark at 850/2000 with the fan running at 80% max....

    I'll probably go back to AMD/ATI with the HD7k series though...
     
  9. Raiga

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    ATI 5850 is faster than AMD 6850, and indeed faster than GTX 460.

    Just increase the resolution in the game, or just change Anti Aliasing mode to full screen super sampling (like 4xSSAA at 1680x1050 or 1920x1080). Then you will know what I am talking about..

    As for the topic..

    GTX 460 is indeed better than AMD 6850, just because of one thing..drivers.
     
  10. Undying

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    I see you dint have nvidia card for a while...:D
     

  11. sykozis

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    4 driver releases in 6 months....all but 2 of which have had issues with stuttering....the lastest having issues with crashing...
     
  12. Yoshpop

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    I went with the Asus 6850 OC and I love it. Then again, I did OC it to 1000/1100 with only a slight bump in voltage.
     
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    yep same here pretty good ocer went nv this time as was sick of ati cards crapping out on me run a evga460 in my lan box and it performs flawlessly
     
  14. yelsewshane

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    Save up another 100 bucks get a nice gpu called the 6950 and unlock it to 6970. And again I still see some people talking about bad amd drivers they are just computer retards don't know what they are doing I never in my life had issues with either amd/ati or nvidia drivers.
     
  15. Jae-So

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    ^ had a 5970, drivers were mostly stable but scaling wasn't always the best, this is better in the 6 series though
     

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    By the time he saves up another £100, the 6950's will likely not be able to be unlocked.

    Also people who claim those with driver problems are retards, are obviously idiots themselves, or are they really playing every single game ever made.

    Driver issues exist on both sides, whether or not you are affected depends on how you use the card.
     
  17. Raiga

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    And if you can't unlock, you can always overclock. I am sure the new 69xx PCBs will be a bit different and the voltage regulators are also changed I guess.. or something related to it.

    Wouldn't that make it a better overclock!.
     
  18. apoklyps3

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    hey everybody. i'm looking to get an upgrade to my very old Nvidia 8800 GTS 640MB and i have the same question GTX460 or AMD 6850. normaly i'd go for for 6850 wich seems slightly better at default clocks (no interested in overclocking) but i have seen some reports on the internet that many 6850 cards suffer from black screen of death in some games. Anybody got this issue?
     
  19. Nbz

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    I can also OC my 6850 past GTX470 performance, without hitting over 60C on Furmark/Kombustor with a custom fan profile (50-60%).

    The 6850 OC's past 1000Mhz on core from 775 stock and to 1200 on memory from 1000 stock.

    They are both overclockers but if I had the chance, I'd still go back to an eVGA GTX460. They have 10 years warranty :p
     
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    Not to mention NVIDIA also offers better tessellation, CUDA and PhysX.
     

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