GrooveShark possibly fined 736 million USD for sharing 5000 songs

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  1. Clouseau

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    Bankruptcy is not what it appears to be. What monies are owed and wiped out/forgiven is deemed income by the IRS. Bankruptcy does not get one out of owing taxes. So still a penalty just not as much.
     
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    Like the EU courts have made sense on some of the same issues it's more an issue of the same legal arguments used over and over again then precedents are set.It is then easier for the next company to go for a cash grab.
     
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    Common sense doesn't = the written law. If the law is written a certain way, the judges have a duty to uphold the law regardless of how stupid it is. Then if its found the law is no longer valid, there needs to be a push to fix the law.
     
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    What are you talking about..The ruling where the US said that an IP isn't good enough to trace a person? That one?
     

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    Exactly, they're not making much sense either, that's why I said it's swapping over.


    Which again puts the laws to be not of common sense. Does that make it better, just because it's written down? ;)
     
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    Remember in the 1980s and 1990s when people used to dub cassettes and movies for their family and friends and nobody gave two squirts of piss?! Hell, the ability to dub a CD or cassette was a selling feature for years with rental places often selling blank tapes alongside the latest releases!

    I guess back in those days there were better people to hassle and sue.

    :flip2:
     
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    It is a lot easier for a group of people to download music or a movie than it was making copies of tapes and VHS. If 5 friends wanted a copy of your Terminator VHS tape, ok, 5 playbacks at 90 minutes.....they'll be done in 7 or 8 hours.
     
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    And they have now shut down their service. You can see their farewell message on the website http://grooveshark.com/
     
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    They have to hand over everything.....wtf man, that's not cool smh
     
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    If it got them out of the $736m fine, Id probably take the deal too
     

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    Let's hope so!
     
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    It's ridiculous, this anti-piracy fines cr4p, there's no way the artists have lost out on that much money from people sharing a few MP3s - for one simple fact, the people downloading them, were never going to buy them anyway
     
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    Let me get this straight, pirating games bad...pirating music and movies is ok. What kind of inconsistent logic is that. Making backup copies for yourself has always been legal. Plus it is impossible to even come up with a ballpark figure of lost revenue. That is why this is considered a fine. Apparently the fines are not steep enough since this kind of stuff still occurs out in front of everyone's eyes. It is there fault for thinking individuals would not take advantage of the freedom they were granted. Laws exist to keep honest people honest. Criminals will always find a way to skirt the law.
     
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    Wait...how much?

    Because from what I understand *Spotify itself pays only $0.007 per play.

    I mean, I saw this coming from a mile away with GrooveShark but that ruling is insane. This music industry is so full of hypocrites it's mind boggling.

    * http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-25217353
     
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    Same old same old.

    Only this time Goliath wins one over but David will be back to rule the day once again.

    I just think the music industry wanted GS for itself. Don't be surprised to see all GS hard work reskinned, renamed and back out with some sort of fees.
     

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    I once saw an infographic put together by RIAA that claimed that piracy cost the industry X number of dollars. I don't remember the exact number, but I remember they had based it on the possible court damages of $150k per song. The number was more money than was in circulation in the entire world. That tells you how completely ridiculous all of this is.
     
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    No. What it shows one is how profitable pirating is. Those fines may be a staggering amount yet it has no effect. What it also shows is that amount was not paid to that tune or one would see more companies that have more cash on hand than governments, like Apple.
     
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    Calculate that in average CD price where those songs are split up on CD's, then check how many downloads of each CD there has been made, 700 million is probably a bargain.

    Another thing is, that 5000 songs in no way covers all the records available on GrooveShark, which means that only a few copyright holders take part in this lawsuit.

    To all that defend pirating, if you want a song and you can't afford it, is it that hard to live without it instead of stealing it?
    After some while the song/record is probably for sale totally legal somewhere.
     
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    Worst bull**** argument I have seen so far.
    You really live in France?
     

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