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  1. The Mac

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    i have 16gb.

    Everytime i disable it it casues havoc, so i dont bother anymore.
     
  2. nav-jack

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    my pagefile is just set to 4gigs.
     
  3. theoneofgod

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    16GB here. What kind of havoc?
     
  4. The Mac

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    random system halts, games chugging, monitoring programs returning wacky results, etc...

    just random bizzare behavior...
     
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  5. theoneofgod

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    That's weird as that happens when I have it enabled.
     
  6. xacid0

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    No problem here disabling Pagefile, over 4 years and running. Win7/8/8.1 and now 10.
     
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    WH40k: DoW2 - Retribution will not even start (at least it did not few years back) with message that you have insufficient memory.
     
  8. cookieboyeli

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    Hey you guys might be interested to know that Crimson is launching on November 24th.

    I can't reveal my source, sorry. I can only assure you that this is the most accurate launch date information as of today. That's all I know.
     
  9. theoneofgod

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    It's just a check they added, it doesn't mean much. You can disable the check using this parameter -disablepagefilecheck
     
  10. PrMinisterGR

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    I have very similar issuesn when it's disabled. I'm really waiting for TH2 to see how compressed ram wll work in the Windows world. Everywhere else I used it (mainly Linux), it has been a very nice experience. As it seems, I won't have the time to apply Blackfyre's advice about double the size of RAM for pagefile (on the SSD), since my PSU hopefully arrives on the 19th.
     

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    It has been well known for many years that not having a page file can cause problems. It is also known that setting a fixed size for the file and not letting Windows manage it itself improves performance. With a fixed size pagefile (min and max values the same), it does not get fragmented which is the main reason for the better performance.

    Long ago, it was recommended to have a page file 1.5 times the size of the installed RAM. In today's world, with many computers having 4-8 GB of RAM or more, this is no longer needed. Setting a fixed pagefile size of 1 GB or even only 512 MB is almost always sufficient. I run with 1 GB myself.
     
  12. The Mac

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    cant tell if joking..

    weve know this for a couple days.
     
  13. RexOmnipotentus

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    I did lower the pagefile size to 1GB and guess what, ANNO 2205 didn't like it. Right after i loaded the map, my system froze and my screen went black.

    The system memory usage was only at 5Gb, but because the game still wanted to make a bigger cache than 1GB, it moved the cache to the memory.
    As soon as my system reached the 8,4 GB (5GB use + cache files) my system crashed immediately.
     
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  14. sammarbella

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    The key is the committed bytes (committed RAM).

    Because for whatever reason the game needs to commit (reserve/lock for him) more ram (real or real+page file) than the total amount of your RAM and pagefile.

    Even if there a lot of ram showed as "free" the committed memory reserved by a process can only be used by this process.

    You can have 8 GB showed as free ram and have 16 GB committed from a process and run out of usable memory.

    When i had only 16 GB or RAM i had to left the page file enabled while playing GTA V because it committed even more than this amount of ram despite the ram reported as used was only 6 GB.

    When i upgraded to 32 GB of RAM i was able to disable the page file and play the game without any memory problem because it can now commit all the ram it want from real ram.

    I still don't know why a game needs to lock for him such HUGE amount of RAM.

    :3eyes:
     
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    The only problem I encountered with no pagefile is, Star Wars Force Unleashed doesn't want to run and shows an obscure error message.
     

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    EDIT:"Let's just forgot about everything i just wrote here. I just know to little about this whole pagefile thing. Fact is that a pagefile of 1GB isn't enough to play Anno 2205.
     
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    Try adding the -disablepagefilecheck theoneofgod said before to the game .exe shortcut.
     
  18. RexOmnipotentus

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    What's the benifit of running a game without a pagefile? Does it really improve performance much?
     
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    I'm not too concerned with AMD spending some time on a reskin. It's low-hanging fruit. Of course I'm expecting more and I would be disappointed if we don't get an improvement to overhead.
     
  20. The Mac

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    its not a reskin.

    It redone from the ground up in QT.

    CCC was done in .net.
     

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