good pc build?

Discussion in 'General Hardware' started by dragoon87, Jul 31, 2009.

  1. Liranan

    Liranan Ancient Guru

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    At 1280x1024 CPU is the bottleneck or problem
    At 1680x1050 (1600x1200) the video card starts to become the bottleneck or problme.

    You said you want a 24" screen, which is fine but your CPU won't be limiting you, your video card will. It's just the way games work.

    There have been many articles showing that the most important thing for gaming is the video card, not the CPU. For example, at very high resolutions it doesn't matter which video card you have and how many, your video card just isn't powerful enough and all CPU's drop to the same frames per second.
     
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  2. dragoon87

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    so what should i do?
     
  3. Liranan

    Liranan Ancient Guru

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    Get the 955BE and a 4870 1GB and you will be fine for a while.

    I am not telling you what you should do, I'm giving you advice. I will never tell you what you should do, only what you could do.
     
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  4. dragoon87

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    so your build is good for that?
     

  5. Liranan

    Liranan Ancient Guru

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    The build I gave you is good.

    Mitzi is saying get a more powerful PSU, it never hurts to have extra power. I have a 700W PSU but I don't use all of it, I bet at least 100W is going to waste. That is up to you and it depends on what you can get but there was an article somewhere showing that you don't need as much power as you think. I will look for it and post it here when I've found it.
     
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  6. dragoon87

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    why for a while?
    so you mean i cant play the full potential of some upcoming
    games?


    and also is the 4870 > gtx275?
     
  7. Liranan

    Liranan Ancient Guru

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    I don't like nVidia anymore because of the nvdll crash. My old Powercolor 4870 died and before I bought this Sapphire one I put my old 8800GTS 320 back in my PC. It's not good enough but I was going to use it until I got my 4870 back. After two days my video card drivers started crashing and my PC kept rebooting itself.

    I updated the drivers to the latest ones and the problem started again after one day of working well. The headaches I got from it drove me crazy and I bought this 4870 until I get the old one back, then I'll give that one to my wife.

    The only time I've had problems with the drivers or video card crashing like that is when I connected two screens to my card. People always used to say how bad ATI drivers were but, from my experience, they are much better than nVidia's. I don't know what caused these crashes but if you look on the internet there're a lot more people suffering from nVidia's cards crashing than from AMD/ATI.

    Other than that 4870 = GTX275. They are both equal in performance, though the 275 is more expensive and about the same price as the 4890. In some games the 4870 performs better and in others nVidia does. I could be confusing the 4870 with the 4890 but I wouldn't recommend the 4890 anyway.
     
  8. Liranan

    Liranan Ancient Guru

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    Try this website, I'm not sure how true it is but even if it's wrong by 100W it shows you don't need a super expensive PSU.

    http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine

    Actually I change my recommendation to 700W as well, I forgot to take ageing into account.
     
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    can you make me a build? also their links
    coz i don't know whats they're real name and picture
    and why you dont recomend me the 4890?
     
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  11. dragoon87

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    is that build is equal to the PC build by biggerx in
    page 2? and also is it good to make my ram 8gb or 12gb?
    coz im playng left for dead 2 or assasins creed 2 in all high option

    and what is dual or tri SLI?
     
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  12. mitzi76

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    this build will run assasins creed 2 on a 24inch no problem. you should be able to reach 3.8ghz on air. biggerx build might get say 5-10fps in some games..it depends which game is more suited to amd/nvidia.

    people say corei7 and intel gets more performance re gaming over an amd build but i think its marginal. and if you consider the price diff amd builds are mostly cheaper.

    (mobos for am3 are usually £30 min cheaper. ram say £30. cpu £40. thats conservative...so you could save £100 going amd)

    u dont need more than 4gb 1600 ddr3. if u want u can have more...i.e 6gb or 8gb..depends on how much u want to spend.

    all games today will run fine with 4gb ddr3.
     
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    and what is dual or tri SLI?

    why just fine?
    is that mean it cant run in smooth performance w/ high quality?

    can't you use the word superb?
     
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    my opinion, go with biggerx's build. its far more future proof then the amd one, especially since the i7 920 at the moment hasn't reached its full potential.

    but hey its your build, just giving you my opinion.
     
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    SLI is 2 nvidia cards.
    Tri SLI is 3 nvidia cards.
     

  16. dragoon87

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    what do you mean by that?
     
  17. Iggyblack

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    hasn't reached its full potential? well most games and programs aren't utilized to take full potential of quad core cpus, in this case the i7 920.
    right now it still performs better than any amd cpu's.
     
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    but if i choose the amd build > intel build
    theoretically, how much i can save ?
     
  19. Iggyblack

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    well in my currency, it would be about $150 - $250 dollars depending on what you choose.

    but before you start making decisions, perhaps you should see how much the amd and intel would cost in your country and if the difference doesn't bother you, go with intel.
     
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    i7 920
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115202

    Asus P6T Deluxe V2 (as long as you don't need a Serial Attached SCSI controller)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131365

    Corsair Dominator 6GB 1600Mhz DDR3
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145224

    or for 1333Mhz & a cheaper set of RAM

    Gskill 6GB 1333Mhz DDR3
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231223

    EVGA GTX 275
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130475

    or for better customer support in Asia try Sparkle.

    Sparkle GTX 275
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814187073

    1 Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB HDD
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136284

    1 Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136319

    Both power supplies have a single +12v rail.

    Silverstone Decathlon 850W
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817256022

    Thermaltake Toughpower 850W

    this was the build by biggerx
    should i change or replace anything?
     

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