Good New's for us still on agp

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce' started by Sabbath, Sep 4, 2007.

  1. Alexraptor

    Alexraptor Maha Guru

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    Will the 8600 AGP be faster than a 7900GS 512mb?

    And any idea on the power requirements? would it be able to run on a 460w PSU without any problems? (2x 17a 12v rails, combined 32a output)
     
  2. FlawleZ

    FlawleZ Ancient Guru

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    Depends on how high its clocked. As it stands the 7900GS is notably faster in games but right on par if not slightly behind the 8600GTS in benchmarks. If you're looking to upgrade from your 7800GS, I would highly advise against it.
     
  3. Alexraptor

    Alexraptor Maha Guru

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    So i guess the 7900GS would be a better buy eh.

    (before anyone goes on about bottlenecks, it isnt really an issue with me, my 7800GS is superclocked 500/750 MHz, but does not run stable in all games, with a 7900GS or better i will be able to maintain a high but stable clock frequency.)
     
  4. FlawleZ

    FlawleZ Ancient Guru

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    That's understandable. But you might as well pick up the 7950GT, X1950Pro or X1950XT if you're wanting to upgrade and keep your AGP platform.
     

  5. Pazsion

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    awesome


    nice even 478's have some fast and pretty bad ass chips available. I would love to get ahold of a dual or quad cpu board and see if it'll run the dual and quad cores chips. =D but they are still held back because few support ghz FSB.. or hyper buses.. this is somethings everyone should be able to step up to.

    Some boards come with pci-e and agp x8 relativly inexpensively. dunno if they are any good. but it's nice to have that option..and be able to run cards in all slots.. multiple monitors etc. that'd be awesome.
     
  6. FlawleZ

    FlawleZ Ancient Guru

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    Wishful thinking, but don't hold your breath. I doubt a single 478 Motherboard would support any dual or quad CPU without a BIOS overhaul and that's unlikely to happen from any manufactur at this point. I'd like to see it happen, but like I said, I'm not holding my breath.
     
  7. Dalilb

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    Only good news is, that Nvidia can still pump out money of a dead standard.

    There is absolutely no idea in upgrading an AGP system unless you have less than a 6800GT or the old card is fried. You wont get any better performance even with a 8600 modded for AGP, since the bottleneck is the AGP port and the CPU power of AGP systems.

    I have tested several 7xxx agp cards from different brands on my old P4 3.2 Mhz / 2gb Ram / 6800 Ultra, and not 1 of them outperforms the Ultra card.

    The money you pay for an AGP card is far better spent on buying a new machine. It wont pay the whole machin, but you get far more for your money.

    If you play any newer games that requires more computer power than eg. WoW, agp is dead imo. The ole machine of mine can just about play games like Oblivion, Vanguard, Conan (beta) on minimum settings with avg 15-25 fps. wich isn't that fun.

    If you have an old 478 system, sell it to someone who just needs an Office PC, and buy a new Pci-E system
     
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    Any word on pricing yet and how this will stack up to a 7800Gs?
     
  9. NeoElNino

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    a 8600GS should be around $180 or $200
    at least ur system would last you 1-2 more years... then after u get a new rig (well this is what im planning to do)
     
  10. Deadman93723

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    Well, I say since the 8600GT sucks no matter if it's AGP or PCI-E it's a stupid upgrade any way you look at it.
     

  11. Dalilb

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    Only good news is, that Nvidia can still pump out money of a dead standard.

    There is absolutely no idea in upgrading an AGP system unless you have less than a 6800GT or the old card is fried. You wont get any better performance even with a 8600 modded for AGP, since the bottleneck is the AGP port and the CPU power of AGP systems.

    I have tested several 7xxx agp cards from different brands on my old P4 3.2 Mhz / 2gb Ram / 6800 Ultra, and not 1 of them outperforms the Ultra card.

    The money you pay for an AGP card is far better spent on buying a new machine. It wont pay the whole machin, but you get far more for your money.

    If you play any newer games that requires more computer power than eg. WoW, is dead imo. The ole machine of mine can just about play games like Oblivion, Vanguard, Conan (beta) on minimum settings with avg 15-25 fps.
     
  12. chaotic1

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    you can get am2 agp mobo's , you have no idea what you are talking about (no offence intended btw ) . a 7950gt agp would out perform the old 6800 ultra if you had a cpu to use it fully
     
  13. aircool

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    Yeah you've posted the same thing twice pretty much and quite rankly your still wrong :D
     
  14. FlawleZ

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    That's strange because I can think of about 4 Nvidia 7 Series cards that are faster than the 6800 Ultra:

    7800GS
    7800GS+
    7900GS
    7950GT

    Even some of the overclocked 7600GT's outperform the 6800 Ultra. There's even more ATI cards that are faster.
     
  15. hallryu

    hallryu Don Altobello

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    AGP sucks ass! :banana:
     

  16. FlawleZ

    FlawleZ Ancient Guru

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    Yeah, it sucks so bad your card doesn't even have the bandwidth to fully utilize AGP 4X.
     
  17. soul8103

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    I think media center pc's based on old AGP hardware could use the card I guess. Not sure on its HDMI decoding capabilities though..
     
  18. W@w@Y

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    maybe because he tested it on a P4 3.2Ghz? i remember some difference in performance with my 7600GT using my A64 3000+ at stock, Oced to 2.4, my e6300 at stock and Oced to 2.8Ghz (though the difference in the C2d stock and OCed wasnt much) but there was a difference in performance between the stock venice and the oced venice..
     
  19. Mannerheim

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    My AQ3 tests.

    Pentium D820 with 6800 128MB unlocked. ~70k (GPU with lots of OC)
    Pentium D820 with 8600GT ~60k (no OC)
    E4400 with 8600GT 100k (no OC)
    E4400 2,6Ghz with 8600Gt ~120k (small OC)
     
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