Going Ryzen need advice

Discussion in 'Processors and motherboards AMD' started by Undying, Jul 4, 2020.

  1. Undying

    Undying Ancient Guru

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    So i've finally upgrading from an Sandy-E needing a few advices from those who already did it becouse i really feel undecided which way to go. Money is tight in this day and age but i still want to feel like i ugpraded. Going from 3930k to R5 3600 i just dont feel it, want more than 12threads, games will need it, consoles will have 16threads so going 3700X makes sense atleast to me.
    I dont want to spend more than 150$ on a B550 and dont want to go crazy with the memory so i was thinking :

    Ryzen 7 3700X 270$
    Asus B550 Tuf Plus 145$
    Gskill Aegis 32GB 3200 CL16 115$
    Kingston A2000 250GB nvme 50$

    Any thoughts?
     
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  2. jbmcmillan

    jbmcmillan Ancient Guru

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    You'd be surprised how capable the 3600 is I went from a 2500k to it and was pleasantly surprised.
     
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  3. Kool64

    Kool64 Master Guru

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    Should be a good system the only thing I’d recommend is considering C14 3200 memory.
     
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  4. Undying

    Undying Ancient Guru

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    3600 is 100$ cheaper and my first choise but from 3930k at 4ghz i dont think would be such a big difference.

    3200 Cl14 is 50$ more expensive. :(
     

  5. anticupidon

    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    You'll keep actual GPU?
    Besides that, the build looks great.
    Even 3200 CL 16 is very good. The difference is negligible. Not the same about price, so a guru will just simply OC/tweak the RAM settings.
     
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  6. Undying

    Undying Ancient Guru

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    Yeah the 580 stays until amd brings out the mainstream rdna2 cards. It should be fine.

    I know you ware upgrading and having a dilema also, did you go with 3600 or 3700?
     
  7. gerardfraser

    gerardfraser Ancient Guru

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    Well You can check out this Ram and you can set it to run CL16 3600Mhz without any problem F4-3600C19D-32GVRB for the Same USA price as the CL 3200 you listed.
    I am using this Ram in my gaming PC and it is just as fast as my B-Die Ram 4000kit/4133Kit.

    You new rig will be fine for PC Gaming but wait a few days and buy a used 3800X which you should be able to buy cheaper than a new 3700X.July 7 2020 AMD have new XT CPU's out.
     
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  8. Undying

    Undying Ancient Guru

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    Overclocking and tweaking is what we do ofc im gonna try going higher with the cpu and memory. :D

    As for 3800XT which will be priced higher i dont think older 3800X prices will be effected.

    Here in Serbia :

    3700X 270$
    3800X 320$
    3900X 400$
     
  9. anticupidon

    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    Went with 3700X, for the time being and foreseeably future, I'm good.
    Better to go with something you want and maybe think that you can't afford and buy the lesser CPU, but in the end you'll have buyer's remorse in a few weeks.
    You buy for some years in advance, that is the Idea.
    Cheers!
     
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  10. Halfmead

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    Looks good, 3700x makes sense unless you can scrounge up a used 3900x used at a bargain, as for CL16/14 Mem.. i'd say CL16 if saving some $$ is the game, doubt any day to day user will feel the difference (unless you REALLY want a couple FPS more ;) ).
    Personally i'd go with a 500GB nvme as system disk.. but thats just me :)

    Good luck on new Bling :)
     
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  11. gerardfraser

    gerardfraser Ancient Guru

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    Well all I can say I bought a 3800X for less than what I paid for 3600X but I am in Canada. There is not much room for any overclocking on the Ryzen CPU's,Tweak/bug in BIOS works best.
     
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  12. Only Intruder

    Only Intruder Maha Guru

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    You can't go wrong really, I went from 4690k to 3700X and 32GB 3200MHz cl16 - system is sooo much faster and more capable. (Although I went X570).
     
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    Before getting as Kingston SSD / NMe. I would make sure it's not one of their 50% write speed models.

    Edit
    I don't know about their NVMe drive but some of their SSD drives only have 50% write speed compared to the read speed. So instead of 535 / 535 MB/s it's 535 / 260 MB/s
     
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    [edit]

    I was going to say (I already did and edited), save some money, go for 16GB, you don't need it...


    ...but I just checked, and my new 3800x system finally used over 16gb (16.9) at some point. 1st time in 2 weeks. It was while playing Detroit: Become Human. (3440x1440) (Open Hardware Monitor is graphing 24/7)

    So anyways, yup. I guess 32gb is here. FWIW, I came from a stock 4790K. Quite pleased with the Ryzen upgrade. You will be too.
     
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  15. AsiJu

    AsiJu Ancient Guru

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    Looks fine but unless you really must upgrade now, maybe wait until Zen 3 is out.
     
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    @AsiJu yes, there will be always something better around the corner.
    And realistically, until we will have the real products available to buy and benchmarks which will validate the reason to buy the best Zen3 CPU/Motherboard, we have what we have. Waiting for the next best thing is a great idea in paper, but bad in reality.
    How much time until Zen 3? Get what you need today, and call it a day.
    I chased the same thing and learned the hard way that you can't buy what is even released yet.
    And new products have always a price tag higher on release day, and what we have today, the Ryzen 3X00 is affordable.
    Get what you need today. And get over it.
     
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  17. LocoDiceGR

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    Im on the same boat as you...I will probably go for 3700x but..

    I dont know what moBo and Ram to choose, so many out there.
     
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    @LocoDiceGR
    Don't need PCI-E 4.0? Get MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX.
    Worried about upgrade path and PCI-E 4.0? Get MSI X570 Tomahawk...
    Your best bet is 3200 CL16 DDRAM4. With some luck and smart tweaked timings, you'll get to 3600 CL 14.
    Get E Die Micron DDRAM (more cheap that Samsung) or go full bore on Samsung BDie, but be prepared to pay a premium price.
     
  19. Undying

    Undying Ancient Guru

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    I was looking at B450 Tomahawk but then i thought B550 is a good compromise between those two. Good X570 can cost quite a bit more.

    For instance B450 Tomahawk max and B550 Tuf gaming plus cost around the same.
     
  20. AsiJu

    AsiJu Ancient Guru

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    True but in this case Zen 3 is literally around the corner.
     
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