Global Warming

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  1. JACK4HIRE

    JACK4HIRE Ancient Guru

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    Okay, neither do I but you have to admit that we both have sounded a tad arrogant in several of our posts. Don't be a hypocrite. ;)

    I edited my last post and hopefully changed my tone.
     
  2. Palerider

    Palerider Ancient Guru

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    LOL Gun- I just searched Google to see what state CONUS was in :bigsmile:

    All together now.....DUH!!!
     
  3. alma

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    My region is Puglia, in the south east coast, which as most of the south of Italy is quite poor, no jobs here and many, many people move to norh of italy, north of europe, australia or US. That's why you have so many italians there; for the same reasons we have a lot of north african, romanian, russian, ukrainan, chinese, albanese people in italy and I can grant you, they're really welcome from me just because they bring new cultures and help me understanding the differences.

    Latin is defined a dead language, there's no country where latin is currently spoken, I studied it at school but tried to forget it asap...I then studied English and Spanish at university, I'm a localizer (software translator) and anyway latin helps me to understand the root of an enormous number of words, as greek does.
     
  4. JACK4HIRE

    JACK4HIRE Ancient Guru

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    I agree. I studied Latin more to understand where modern language comes from then anything else. I speak English and Spanish fluently (read and write). I speak German and Latin semi-fluently. My wife speaks fluent English, Italian, Latin and Spanish. She was raised Roman Catholic so Latin was a must at least at her private school. She is the person who talked me into taking Latin. Your English is excellent by the way.

    Now that things have calmed down and we have kissed and made up can we get back on topic? I promise I will do my best to keep my huge patriotic ego to myself. :arnie:
     

  5. alma

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    Thanks for the compliment :) Let's go back on topic, here is 12am so I'm going to leave for now (be patriotic while I'm away :)) have a nice time!
     
  6. r3claim3r

    r3claim3r Ancient Guru

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    Yes, back on topic, sounds like a good idea to me. While we are on the subject on protecting the environment and stopping global warming, does this mean we all have to drive hybrids? Look at the damage hybrids can do...

    http://clubs.ccsu.edu/recorder/editorial/editorial_item.asp?NewsID=188

    A green car? Well, if the resultant acid rain is green, I guess so.
     
  7. Ryu5uzaku

    Ryu5uzaku Ancient Guru

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    noooo i shall drive a car running on gasoline :p tho i wouldn't mind alternative :eek:
     
  8. ManicOne

    ManicOne Maha Guru

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    Yeah I know I said I wouldn't respond again in this thread, but LOL!!!!

    You have absolutely no farkin idea about chemistry, hell even my wife (with no formal scientific training) lolled at your post.

    An example: The Earth and its moon are virtually the same distance from the sun (aggregate average is the same).
    *Moon has no atmosphere, and an average temperature of -15C.
    *Earth has an atmosphere, and an average temperature of 15C.
    Thus Temperature differential due to Earth's atmosphere is 30C.

    Over the last 30 years, average temperature on Earth has risen 0.6C, or 2% of the atmospheric differential temperature.


    My point is this: There are multiple factors that can contribute to global warming: Yes, solar activity is one of them. But thinking it is the reason (and mutually exclusive from greenhouse emissions (gases that absorb sun based radiation) is plain hilarious.


    Then again, what would I know, I'm just a chemist. Here's a link, you can go argue with NASA...

    http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2007/danger_point.html
     
  9. JACK4HIRE

    JACK4HIRE Ancient Guru

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    Hard to stay out of it when someone says something down right foolish isn't it?
     
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    Agreed the math and logic behind that is fundamentally flawed. Mean isn't even the main measurer of climate change, but variations over multiple locations. The earth isn't a billiard ball.
     

  11. ManicOne

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    You, my friend, have no friggin idea. God I'm talking to a bunch of droptards.

    How do you think a mean (average) measurement is calculated. By measuring the whole planet as one point sample? Nope, by taking data "over multiple locations". Jeez I can actually feel myself getting dumber.
     
  12. DrSiN

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    I offically love you.
     
  13. r3claim3r

    r3claim3r Ancient Guru

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    Over multiple locations? How diverse are the locations? Is it just the polar regions? What about the deserts? I can see how the locations can be selected to affect the data. Not only that you must also consider the time measured and the season.
     
  14. JACK4HIRE

    JACK4HIRE Ancient Guru

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    Well I'm not your father but that was not very nice. You can say to someone 'that's not correct' in many ways but calling someone a droptard is definitely not the way to change someone’s mind and have a pleasant conversation.

    You usually have the math and science to back up what you are saying so in my never to be humble opinion you should not have to stoop to such a level but maybe you did it out of frustration. It makes you look ignorant and foolish. I know because I have done it.

    Open mouth and insert foot.

    I understand quite clearly the term 'mean' however I can also see how it would be very difficult to obtain a good accurate mean temperature for the Earth as there are many variables to consider. I won't speak for blue5 but my perception of his post was that he had the same problem with your post.

    I know where you are going and I agree I just think you assumed everyone here has your extensive scientific background and understands immediately.

    I have the same problem in my line of work when someone outside law enforcement is in the conversation. I and Officer Smith are talking about a case and the layman is just looking at us like WTF because they have no idea what a PBT, FST, DRS is. I always know a fool when I see one because they act like they understand and don’t ask questions.

    Maybe you could explain how an accurate mean temperature of the Earth is obtained when there are so many variables to consider?
     
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  15. Woodmasterfox

    Woodmasterfox Ancient Guru

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    I drive an SUV!

    (Sorry guys, found that can of gasoline laying around in my room :flame: )

    /end sarcasm

    But seriously, what is the point of this? I honestly think this is the 4th global warming thread we have had around here in a relatively short period of time. All I even know what to say this time around is that I drive a V8 SUV and I love it. My environmental footprint is still hundreds of times smaller than Al Gores. Go figure.
     

  16. ManicOne

    ManicOne Maha Guru

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    Frustration? Yes.
    Regret? No.
     
  17. ManicOne

    ManicOne Maha Guru

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    Think of it this way, the more valid data points the better the fit (just like AA really). With that information you can work out my answer.
     
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  19. JACK4HIRE

    JACK4HIRE Ancient Guru

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    A line from Pulp Fiction come to mind..."Night of the fight, you might feel a slight sting. That's pride fu**ing with you. Fu** pride! Pride only hurts . . . it never helps. You fight through that sh**"! :bash:
     
  20. eat@joes

    eat@joes Maha Guru

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    Awesome. I hate the winter.
     
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