Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Sep 26, 2020.
Don't really appreciate the lack of communication from MSI tbh
If it's truly just a caps thing (I'm not convinced), since the supply was so low to begin with, manufacturers that want to do a PR thing (and take a loss) will replace the cards for free. And maybe they can later take it back from nvidia...
Reports the new driver out today, has fixed the crashing.
hardware unboxed isn't reliable.
nothing for the spcaps situation, it fixes a few known software issues that were being mixed into the issue and removes those cards from the subject (asus tuf, Fe, XC3)
Unlike AMD, nvidia doesn't do clock fine tuning in the driver, any differences being seen are going to revert back the next time they shut the machine down and the VID is set.
Tried today new driver, i was using 460.20 from quadro with no issues whatsoever on my msi trio as said days before, caps config 5+1, boosts perfectly above 2ghz, no matter workload, new driver same situation, boost and overclocks perfectly, i'll put some screens in a bit.
quick tests to try to replicate the crash reports, high mhz before temp rise for the boost be the highest possible:
full hd, boosts above 2100
rendered in game 4k, boost jumps between 2080 and 2040, no more 2100+ boost haha, again, no stability, crash, problem whatsoever, but now, like print shows, perfcap hits hard as the card power consumption raised
In multiple Spanish stores, the pictures of GPU have the new changes. I have downladed the file and the metadata says that it's from 14/09/2020, so maybe they knew it from some time ago and in Europe they will directly sell only the updated revision.
Here's a link to the updated MSI GAMING X TRIO 3080 product page on MSI's website , notice the 2 top quality yellow MLCC on the backplate
Nvidia think they might have fixed it with a driver update. They also suggest that the caps thing might be a red herring.
I dont think they are suggesting it might be a red herring. Seems to me they just want to give the appearance they are addressing it but not really wanting to clarify it any better. Its also why the topic is "locked".
"The appropriate number of POSCAP vs. MLCC groupings can vary depending on the design and is not necessarily indicative of quality..."
That may be a truthful statement but its tempered with the words "not necessarily".
Corporate lawyers don't allow absolutes. This is America man, get with it.
remember when some youtube (jayz ?) explained that AIBs were only provided a pass or fail basic test and no driver ?
remember that when cooling designs had already been released for pretty much all models they still didn't have drivers
remember that this time nvidia wanted to be the no1 videocard seller because keeping their best bins wasn't enough already ?
so now we have AIBs that clock lower are based on an inferior PCB and have troubles, but still sold for more money, thanks nvidia
100% their fault
they only forgot that screwing up your partners make the entire product look bad and now no one following videocard news wants one, great job
btw guys you can't take their websites pictures as facts, it's marketing has to go through 2-3 departements before being updated, it's meaningless EDIT : it does prove tough that they have changed the capacitors at one point unlike what they say
and....my system updated the drivers again and now i get 2x more crashes on my 1080ti time to roll back again, drivers still a problem
Sorry for the quality, not my plans being youtuber, no light and with smartphone recording hehe... "issue installed , tested and repaired" in 10min , better quality uploading !
Thanks. Interesting that vcore didn't go as high after the driver update.
Well well, if even Tim@nvidia doesn't know the difference between poscaps and spcaps...... No miracle.
So. Safe to say it's an end user issue as it only happens when overclocking the GPU.
So no manufacturer has to honor a warranty because the end user is taking the hardware out of spec. Good things!.! HA!!
Ok now i understand the issue a bit better.
those are the specs as reported by guru3d, 1710 is the boost clock.
The 3080 is targeted at 1440/1710.
Over 1710 could work, but it doesn't.
What are we even talking about?
Updated to 465.55 but still having completely crash and freeze up issue.
The only working workaround for now is to down clock by 50MHz.
P.S. Zotac Gaming RTX 3080 Trinity
I have a question here, never owned the rtx 2xxx series before.
In regards about the unstable boost clock that's supposedly causing the games to crash, is there a way to keep 3D base clock in conjunction to your boost clock???
I know with the maxwell bios editor II, I can keep it together, for instance, running @ 1506 mhz on the 970's with other voltage tuning, I can keep it that speed range.
Has anyone bios edited these cards yet? I know its still extremely to early but was curious have anyone done so yet.
I wonder if the bios setup is the same as the 2xxx series.
If you can keep your 3D base clock speed together along with the boost clock speed, it may help stabilize the system, again, never owned the 2xxx turing gpu's so can't say.