GeForce RTX 3060 hashrate restriction bypassed by miners

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  1. schmidtbag

    schmidtbag Ancient Guru

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    Do you know what separates a black market from a regular one? Do you know what separates crypto currencies from fiat currency?
    Believe me, countries like the US and China are finding any chance they can get to take advantage of crypto currencies. They're losing tax money, and tracking crime (such as drug deals) is made so much more difficult, so it is very much within their interest to regulate it. If it were so easily done, it would have been years ago.
     
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    If work only on that, you kill the benefit of a GPU card... and even more worse on a system that doesn't use those Api.
    Not good at all.
     
  3. rl66

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    None of those sell here and Amazon can deliver only a part of the thing that are on their site...
    The only good point: we have money lol
     
  4. warezme

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    So it comes down to, hey I was lucky to get a card and not even one of the more sought after ones, so I guess there really is no problem for everyone else. Whatever.
     
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    If GPU makers were really serious about limiting sales to miners, they could do it easier than we may think. For one, stop shipping to retailers who flout the one GPU per customer rule. Pretty sure many retailers get offers from miners to buy their whole stock at higher than MSRP, and that I believe is whats creating the problem. They may keep a few dozen cards around, but the bulk is likely pre-sold before its even in stock. I sometimes wonder if miners even bypass the retailers and buy direct from AIBs in bulk (ie, Zotac). If so, Nvidia needs to penalize them.

    Another thing Nvidia could do is to increase their direct sales (and reduce that of AIBs) which will give them much more control of the situation. But this ridiculous half-nerfing of hash rates (of one crypto out of many) is a joke really.
     
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    Anyone surprised?

    I just have this song in my head now...
     
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    Kind of wish the updates on the article had timestamps so I could see which posters only read headlines and not the entire article.
     
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    Close enough I guess.
    Enabling two parties to trade without the need for a trusted third party, as Sathoshi put it in The white paper.

    A purely peer-to-peer version of electronic cash would allow online payments to be sent directly from one party to another without going through a financial institution. Digital signatures provide part of the solution, but the main benefits are lost if a trusted third party is still required to prevent double-spending. We propose a solution to the double-spending problem using a peer-to-peer network.


    ... an electronic payment system based on cryptographic proof instead of trust, allowing any two willing parties to transact directly with each other without the need for a trusted third party.

    https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
     
  9. tfam26

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    "Regulate"?

    Respectfully man, are you honestly under the impression its not those exact same central bank systems running the (sh*t) show on crypto? And by "criminal activity" do you mean the kind committed by the Chinese and US governments or are you talking about selling used panties and pot to teenagers?
     
  10. schmidtbag

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    Does it matter who runs the show? The banks don't want to be regulated by governments either, so your point and conspiracies are moot.
    I already gave an example of criminal activity. But to be more specific, I'm talking about the kinds of crimes that require money laundering. By using crypto, you don't have to worry about that.
     

  11. tfam26

    tfam26 Guest

    Opinions vary.

    The point is, that more money laundering and criminal activity go through these governments then any other entities on the planet. If crypto currencies provide the common user with more flexibility, think of what it provides these governments and banks in terms of the same. And are you really under the impression that these banks don't already control the actual governments? Why is the US always at war with the only 3 countries left on the planet that do not have central banking? Its not really a "conspiracy" its just kind of sitting there in the open...
     
  12. schmidtbag

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    If all this is just your opinions then I'm not interested in arguing this. Your pedantry and yawn-inducing conspiracies makes it seem like you're arguing for the sake of arguing.
    Why would a government with its own centralized bank need crypto to hide their own actions? They're the ones with all the power, who are they trying to hide from that is capable of exploiting it?
    There are 11 countries without a central bank and none of them are currently at war with the US (North Korea isn't on friendly terms but I'm pretty sure they're not at war).
    Y'know one of the ingredients of a conspiracy? Inventing extraordinary plots without extraordinary evidence.
     
  13. asturur

    asturur Maha Guru

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    The demand is high because is hard to satisfy.
    I do not want to keep trying looking for a card and fight for availability and decent price.
    That should be a given for me, i pay MSRP + tax, and i order it and after 2 weeks i get it.
    For you this research may be worth, for me is a time waste and a console start to be a better offer many people ( and ps5 are hard to get too )
     
  14. tfam26

    tfam26 Guest

    That's the question you should be asking.

    Try to remain calm during discussions please. I can entertain the idea that I'm wrong, but its really not that "extraordinary of a plot" that I'm presenting. I realize that throwing the word "conspiracy" around is extremely trendy right now when a conversation becomes uncomfortable, for whatever reason here its so upsetting I'm not truly sure... but its no reason to be rude and to lash out.

    Also, forgive me for using "war" as a relative term. War has taken on a lot of different meanings since about 150 years ago. Even though we disagree I hope you enjoy the rest of your day.
     
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    My question was facetious. I'm asking because you're making a speculation that doesn't make sense.
    Am I yelling? Am I throwing insults? Stop jumping to conclusions, like you are about your conspiracies hahaha.
    What's trendy is making up claims about government corruption and saying "oh but this time it's different, it's actually true". Everybody here knows governments and banks are corrupt. We all know we're being used in some way, we're all being spied on, and that the people at the top are abusing their power over other countries. Perhaps you're right that governments and/or banks have real control over cryptocurrencies, but without evidence, it's nothing more than just another boring conspiracy of how much the world and those who control it suck. I'm so bored and tired of this crap and I know I'm not alone in saying that - the last thing I want to hear is someone's conjecture on yet another devious orchestration by the big-bad world powers.
     
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    Any mining should be limited on gaming cards, no matter what kind it is.
     
  18. Reddoguk

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    Money is money unfortunately and all retailers whether online or not is going to sell bulk if they can.

    I often wonder how much juice is being drawn by all these crypto miners. I bet it's a lot when you see the size of some of the farms. Well at least Britain will be a bit warmer each and every year.

    I also wonder what would happen if nVidia finally put it's foot down and told etailers/retailers that they have to sell a maximum of 2 cards or something so that gamers get a chance to actually own one of the frackers. I'm personally waiting for a 3080Ti or even a 3070Ti, that way i can pre-order before they are all sold out.
     
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    And another idea: to limit the life of videocard (on FW+HW level) when it works under full load, say 6 months (of 24/7 usage) - miners will not sell them and will need to buy much more frequently, gamers will only have to doze virtual life.
     

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