Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, May 18, 2021.
Lol, did not realize that Playtech is real company. Their yt videos are brilliant, most of the time
Let me draw you a picture ...
When 3070 was listed 700+ in shops, say back in december/jan, the scalper price on various websites was 850-1000.
Now when european shops list it for 1700 scalper prices are 2000.
Who influenced mostly the scalper price? Fecking shops, unless you're blind.
To give you a quick example, and I have plenty on shops in EU listing from 1350 to 1700e (over 1700 USD).
I bought a similar card from them in early january for 719e.
Local scalpers price here was 850-900e back then.
Retails for 2000+ instead
That's exactly it
R.I.P PC gaming.
Prebuilt is way to go granted it's not MSRP, but better than scalper prices of card's out there.
Most 3090s are over 4000 euros here (on the occasion that they pop up that is), even seen one as high as 5000... it's the same for all other lower end models from both amd and nvidia (and for both current and last 2 generations), pure insanity...
After the initial listing, the AIBs themselves raised prices, which made even the most conservative shops raise their own as well. On the other hand, I don't quite get your logic otherwise. Like I said previously, scalpers need to sell for higher than they buy, just like everyone else, otherwise they wouldn't make profit. If there are still some desperate miners willing to pay 2000 euros for a 700 euros cards, then that's how it is. If someone calculates they can earn through mining even the scalper's price or is a millionaire and thus doesn't care, it's what keeps the scalpers alive even after shops raised their prices. For what it's worth, 3070 is listed from 900 to 1100€ over here, it's just that there hasn't been any stock for great many months, except for pre-sold minus stock, haha.
You seem to think PC hardware stores exist for gamers, but, of course, they exist for their owners. Supply and demand is the thousands of years old mechanism for defining prices. Over here shops have typically had some principles, though, unlike faceless giants like Amazon, and they have tried to keep conservative prices. There's always a certain "Finnish extra" in prices over here due to Finland being one of the most expensive countries in the world in general, but the shops were slow to raise their prices from that. They did rise eventually, but it's still quite moderate compared to some other countries. However, it doesn't really matter in practice since there's no stock to sell.
You know, I'm repeating the same message, but scalpers aren't the problem. People who buy from scalpers are the problem. Miners aren't the problem. People who give real money to miners are the problem. But since they are real world problems, you just have to deal with it, there are no magic solutions to them. Just like you have to deal with the shop prices that will inevitably rise when there's no supply. That's how capitalism works. Just think back to what happened to those face mask prices when the Covid-19 hit. On the other hand, communists have no GPUs in the first place, so that's not a choice either.
Personally i think we should be able to name and shame the scalpers, just found a listing for an rtx3060 for £1500.00 then saw the same seller with a listing for an rtx 3070 suprim for £2500
Given that i only paid £539 for my 3070 gaming xtrio..... this is beyond just trying to make a bit of profit.
So what if you can now just about order an entire Alienware gaming rig with a 3080 in it, for less than it costs to buy a single 3080...
Aldi's Medion Erazer Hunter X20 gaming rig with a 3080 in it is now €2799...including a 11900K, 32GB RAM, 1TB m.2 SSD, and 4TB HDD....lalalalalaaaahh...oh right, and a 240mm Eisbär cooler, 750W Seasonic PSU...the 11700K X10 rig with a 3070 in it is €1499, btw. (Underscore for emphasis only.)
Oh well...sales starting 27 May...soon
The only gaming GPU available in our shops I've found today was a single one 6900XT for 3000USD. Seriously dark times. Now imagine what would happen if China took over Taiwan.
You're welcome to give it a go yourself.
I also noticed that going for a full rig from an OEM saves you some money, considerably more than actually buying the parts.
Not really honestly anyway not in Canada. You'll save a little bit but you'll be stuck with a bad PSU, likely a not so good MB and more often than not a terrible case. You'll still have to spend twice the amount of the msrp and be stuck with a good GPU and CPU but overall a not very well built PC.
Doesn't matter when you cannot buy it! Go ahead, make it 10, 20, 50 or 100x more to boost your stocks!
I have all the games I need to play under the name "BACKLOG" v1, v2, v3, and whatever other low tech games my friends, family and their kids play.
Milking this Haswell + 1060 GTX to the MAX with no regrets.
Bought a GameColor 6900XT for €1120 and a 3060Ti for €490, got lucky! Sold the 6900XT for €1200 (of course I could get way more).
But I hope things settle soon, this is just absurd.
6 in stoc
1899 pounds (2200e or 2600$)
For those desperate.
Sheer insanity. I bought my entire system for less.
Edit: And they're gone. Incredible.