Geforce RTX 3000 Ampere: Data center March, Consumers June 2020

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  1. nevcairiel

    nevcairiel Master Guru

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    Well, honestly if they release a card that matches NVIDIAs top end a year later, then yes, they are late, because for a full year, NVIDIA had the crown. A year is a long time to wait.
    But prices not withstanding, if they managed to release say 3-6 month after NVIDIA and challenge their performance, maybe that wouldn't impact prices much (personally I would expect it still to impact it on some level), it would at the very least drive innovation forward. The 2080 Ti is over a year old, and if it had any competition, it might have seen a successor already. As it stands now, it'll be over 1.5 years until it gets replaced, possibly longer if they don't launch the "Ti" flagship of the 3000 series right away.
     
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    well i hope the 3000 series is a worth it upgrade over my 1080ti, they onnly upgrade worth it now performance wise would be the 2080ti, and it doest make much sense for the price per performance improvement, so ill be looking at the 3080 and 3080ti
     
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    Nice news can't wait for the 3070 it should be about 3x the performance of my 1070.
    I hope it will hold up well with next gen console ports at 60fps 1080p res which is all want.
     
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    From 1060 to 3060 no matter what. My next certain update.
     
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    Yep, anyone with a 1080 or 1080Ti basically had to pay an arm and a leg for an upgrade. As much as I could buy a 2080 Ti, I prefer to be sensible with my budget and € 1300 is simply not sensible for the performance upgrade it offers.
     
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    Nope, they'll charge anything they can, and if AMD have nothing as usual and those cock smokers at Intel don't introduce something decent at a non-insane price you'll be looking at 1.5-2K + your first born child.
     
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    Nice
     
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    It will be interesting to see what sort of performance they can put into the equivalent of a GTX 1060`s 120 watt power limit. Should be very good if they avoid the ray-tracing stuff until the next generation.
     
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    AMD will be unleashing RDNA 2-based GPUs in 2020, and that's why Nvidia is working on the new 3000 series. (also heard that the ampere will be cheaper [~$200 less ]than its predecessors).

    $1200 - $200 = $1000 :D

    Edit: Latest update, less than $1000.

    $999
     
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  10. Astyanax

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    • nVidia Ampere HPC
    • reliable info: GA100 chip with a 6144 Bit HBM2 interface, doubled Tensor cores per SM
    • reliable info: GA101 chip as half of GA100, so with a 3072 Bit HBM2 interface (chip allegedly canceled recently)
    • not reliable info: GA100 with 8 GPC, each with 8 TPC = leads to 8192 CUDA cores
    • not reliable info: both chips at TSMC 7nm+ (with EUV)

    • nVidia Ampere Gaming
    • not reliable info: 5 gaming chips, all at Samsung 7nm (with EUV)
    • nVidia GA100
    • HPC / professional solution of the Ampere generation
    • 8 Graphics Processing Cluster (GPC) with each 16 Streaming Multiprocessors (SM) and each 8 Texture Processing Clusters (TPC)
    • each SM most likely contains (as before) 64 CUDA cores (CU) with 4 Texture Mapping Units (TMU), but 16 Tensor cores (doubled from Ampere)
    • gives a total of 128 Streaming Multiprocessors, which contain a total of 8192 CUDA cores, 512 TMUs and 2048 Tensor cores
    • PCI Express 4.0 (own assumption, but probably)
    • 7nm+ (EUV) from TSMC
    • launch sometime in 2020 (other news points to first half of 2020)
    [​IMG]
     
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  11. RavenMaster

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    All I want from the 3000 series cards are some performance gains and for them to have native HDMI 2.1 and hopefully DisplayPort 2.0 connections
     
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    So True^!.....They never test a 3950x or a 9900ks with anything less than a 2080ti.
     
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    No.

    Just no.

    They were always working on 7nm products since 7nm became available to them. 3000 series isn't coming out because of RDNA 2. That line of thinking just makes no logical sense.
     
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    They are bringing out the cards anyway, I agree. After all, they need cash flow in 2020 just as much as in 2010.
     
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    Zen 3 + 3080 Ti next year :D
     
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  16. XenthorX

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    I'll change my CPU when it'll be a noticeable limiting factor at 4K, not while it's <5% :eek:

    5820K - 3080-ti next year? i want 4K raytracing no DLSS, give me my real time movie CGI experience in games. Think i'll start putting money on the side starting now...
     
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    Its gonna be 2000€ card.
     
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    Doubt it. I dont think they want to commit hara kiri to their business. Their market share is too sacred to risk losing. I think Ampere will be cheaper.
     
  19. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Thread cleanup. Gents ..... keep your cool.Also, stop spamming/tagging certain NVIDIA employees.
     
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  20. Astyanax

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    the GA102 part is likely going to be <1100
    the GA104 part is likely going to be <700

    However, This is RRP.

    Actual Retail price will depend on stock availability, and I'm hearing some potential bad things that could impact stock, one of them being that EUV can manage 1500 wafers a day, while ArF immersion can do 6000
     
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