Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Mar 30, 2015.
How long does it take usually from production to us if everything goes well?
Long. Probably like November/December.
Thank you very much and Matt26LFC there's your answer
I honestly can't see a shrunk Maxwell. There would be little to no gain going to 20nm, 16nm FF can't handle GPU's, 16nm FF+ can but won't be shipping products till December probably. At that point PASCAL is like 3 months away.
Despite rumors I think what you'll probably see is a 980Ti at the end of summer on 28nm. I think it will be a cut down Titan X. They aren't getting full yield with a chip that size. They may do something weird like 990 Ti that's full die, then a 980 Ti that's cut down, but that seems weird to me.
I also am kind of predicting at AMD's 390x won't beat a Titan. I think maybe there will be an addition of it that matches it. Like maybe the WC edition will match, maybe at 4K it will win due to HBM, but I don't think it's going to be much faster. The only rumor that's been consistent is that it's going to be on 28nm and it's going to have roughly 40% more cores. Which puts the power output way past 300w. To cool that with fans you'd need to lower the clock speed so much, or watercool it. I do think it will be cheaper though, which is a win regardless.
I think if you already have a 980/970 and you want better performance, you should SLI it.
If you don't have a next generation card and don't care about power but really want performance and you need a card immediately, you should get a 295x.
If you want a next gen card but are patient, be patient till you see 390x. If it's as good as Titan then buy that, the 980 Ti will probably be mediocre in performance compared to it.
Could be wrong about everything, but that's my take on it all.
Sounds reasonable to me. I see the Ti to be a gimped / cut GM200, I'm just not all too sure it will have the full bandwidth... I hope they don't go the same route as with the 970, although I'm not to be bothered as I won't get myself one of those anyway. Volta, where art though?
Well now I'm glad I bought my G Sync monitor, and this gives me some time to get the funds ready for my next upgrade, hope it's out sooner than November/December tho.
Maybe nvidia expecting massive hit by dx 12 release. http://cdn.overclock.net/4/47/900x900px-LL-4714aef8_featuresetsdx12.png
As another user already mentioned this on previous 980Ti news:
Originally Posted by Bluefirexp
"You guys living in your gamer world should think about the fact, that not each Viz-Studio or Viz-Architekt goes Quadro, we often have to stay with the consumer products. So the 12GB Titan X is pricewise the holy grale for lots of us - and we are a huge market - for iRAy or Vray GPU-Rendering. Many of our scenes in 3dsmax, Cinema4D etc. are really huge when it comes to rendering - and GPU rendering is only possible if the complete scene fits into the graphics card memory. If it doesn't fit, rendering falls back to the CPU. So with those 12GB and the power of MAxwell i can now say, that GPU rendering finally starts to make sense! Thanks NVIDIA for not abandoning us, the small Viz-Studios and freelancers, who can't afford those expensive Quadro systems."
By that logic, nVidia has covered semi-pro people nicely, original Titan for those who need compute and the X for those who need a sh*t load of RAM.
Was it intentional? Maybe, either way it's working out for those who actually need these cards as it was never intended for the gamers and the price speaks that clearly.
So me included, we really should stop whining about Titan's position and it's price already, for gamer's cards yeah rip all you want!!
The main reason I see behind overpriced TITANs are poor yields in the begining. So why not ask the real price of the silicon..? Plus when you combine it with interest from Viz studios and those few with lots of money who are willing to pay I understand why Nvidia created TITANs. They will sell even after 980Ti comes to life. Now let's hope that AMD can finally bring something that will make a difference
in this case "After Summer" is nvidia speak for "after 390x is released, we will scramble to tweak 980 Ti to sorta compete with the 390x"
I love how "some" people assume that the 390x is gonna be a world beater. It may be a flop for all we know. It was supposed to already be out but it's not. Kinda makes me think it cant beat Maxwell at current.
I guess 6gb will the sweet spot for 1440p ultra settings in late 2015 games but its really borderline now for 4k ultra settings so those planning on 4k gaming should think hard about getting a 6gb card.
I have seen my brothers titans regularly cross over the 6gb boundary in 4k with ultra settings so i think the Titan is still going to have the best gameplay experience in 4k ultra settings vs the 980 Ti - as it should for the price. The vram stutter is very noticeable in games now on a 980 gtx even in 1440p with ultra textures in SOM and Dyling light and theres no way i want vram limitation in 4k.
If there was limited supply i could believe that - but there is not really here at least any limited supply of Titan Xs. They have either been binning these for a while to build up stock or they have a good yield of them and are just making some extra margins whilst they can.
And I said in the previous 980 ti thread that the TitanX would be cheap alternative for those people who are in the business of CAD and other Workstation work considering them Quadro cards can go for several thousand dollars while the Titan X is only a grand. I see the Titan X is both a gaming card and a workstation card rolled into 1. Yeah 12gb of Vram is overkill for gaming but it can really help out at 4k.