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GeForce GTX 980 Ti has 3072 CUDA Cores and 6GB of GDDR5

Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Mar 27, 2015.

  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    If this is true and nothing is changed except the memory size,then the 980ti will be faster&cheaper than the titan x.:)

    And quite to be expected considering the last gen titan vs 780ti.
     
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    How can this be? As it will be faster than the titan X there will be NO REASON AT ALL to buy the titan X without DP FP64. It was clear a new card would arrive to fill the gap between the titan and the 980, but when its faster than the titan, what card will be placed between the 980 and the titan?

    A titan LE Or a GTX980+ with 5/6 of the GM200 chip enabled? Thus: 2560 Shader cores, 160 Texture Units, 80 Rops, 5GB DDR5 on a 320 bits bus?

    Now that would make sense! and note this as a prediction.. a card like i describe above will release within 2 months after AMD release, clocks are yet to be determined, nvidia has to watch te competitions HD 300 release first.
     
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    What "facts"? I'm not saying this isn't going to happen, but it seems more like deductive reasoning than any facts.
     

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    I'll have to say that this is probably not true (no offense to you Hilbert, as you said it's just a rumor).

    This is pretty much the same GPU as Titan X, just with less VRAM. Titan X doesn't have the DP performance that other Titans had in order to justify the price point, so if these said rumors were true nobody would buy the Titan X for any reason. Not even future proofing. When we get games to use more than 6GB of VRAM, these GPUs won't be powerful enough anyway.

    And the difference in DP between the 980 and the Titan X is not that big. They won't be able to handicap the 980Ti DP performance enough to make Titan X feasible.

    My 2 cents. I could be wrong, but I don't see Nvidia completely sabotaging the number of Titan X sells.

    EDIT: If I think about it.. If this 980Ti would be around 850-900$ the Titan X would still be feasible. 100$ extra could justify the extra 6GB of VRAM on the Titan X. But 900$ for the 980Ti is above AMD's intended 390x price. It all depends whether the 390x will be competitive since the leaked slides are not accurate (the Titan X performance in those slides was quite off).
     
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    Unless they cut it down it will be yet another middle finger to Titan owners.

    But if GM200 internal working is same as GM2014, then cutting would again cripple access to part of installed memory. In such case nVidia would end up between "gimped/fake card" flame and throwing insult to Titan X owners' faces.

    If 980Ti is full GM200-400 as Titan X, then price would have to be higher than $700 because not many people would pay 300$ for going from 6GB vram to 12GB.
    (especially since we are very close to end of 28nm era, and we can expect another performance boost on 16/14nm by start of 2016 due to improved transistor density, heat per square mm and maximum numbers of transistors which can fit into one chip)
     
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    Doesn't seem very probable. Let's not forget that Nvidia is a moneywhore. There's no reason to release a "titan killer" so soon after titan.
    I bet 980ti will have 2500~2800 cuda cores and get released after AMD's 390(X) release.
     
  8. Hilbert Hagedoorn

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    Changed the wording a little,

    You guys need to realize one thing though. How many people are actually buying a 1K USD Titan X and how many WOULD buy this potential 599~699 USD 980 Ti especially with AIB partners custom edition in mind?

    NV has all the reason to release this model -> volume sales.
     
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    That makes sense actually. The Ti will most definitely sell much more than that Titan X.
    The only problem is that current X owners will get the middle finger. Which is not something Nvidia hasn't done before actually, but this time it's worse.
     
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    Well I personally think it will sell, I believe it will sell better than the Titan or any 980 with 8GB, if they happen to release such a card.

    I wonder, cutting down on CUDA cores sounds reasonable, but they can't toy with the 384bit bus, can they? Because that could a point that would technically put the TitanX above any 980Ti, if the Ti had 256bit memory bus (which I think doesn't work with 6GB VRAM?)
     

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    If the 980Ti is a reasonable price, and a big enough leap from a 980, I might be tempted to listen to the upgrade bug that whispers in my ear when a new GPU is released
     
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    I'm curious to see how the Ti's appearance on the market might make 980s drop in price, since they could have about 115-150% the performance of a 980, but most likely won't cost 50% more. ;)
     
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    What was the price difference between the 780 and 780Ti at their launch?
     
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    Seems like a great card.
     
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    According to wikipedia, 780 was $649 at launch, and the Ti was $699 at launch. Following the Ti launch, the 780 dropped to $499.
     

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    Sounds doable if I sold the 980 before the Ti launch
     
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    Product positioning-wise, this could be a repeat of the 780ti. That really screwed Titan owners since it was released not long after but was $300 cheaper. So dont be too surprised if Titan-x owners see the same. Only consolation for them is the more (but almost useless) extra vram.
     
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    Blimey if this is true and the 980 Ti is the same full fat GM200 that the X is but with 6GB I may have get me one! It'll probably be around £200 cheaper and the same if not better performance out of the box if those rumoured clock freq's are to be belived!
     
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    You're giving me ideas Ex....
     
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    The only thing standing in the way of this rumor is binning. What's happening to all the imperfect GM200s if 980Ti silicon is also peachy...
     

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