GeForce GTX 470 and 480 review [Guru3D.com]

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  1. Redemption80

    Redemption80 Ancient Guru

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    I never said they shouldn't be compared, i think they should.
    What i was pointing out was in September last year, most 5870 owners were claiming a benchmark had a bias towards Nvidia if they tested the 5870 against a GTX295, but now its a fail for Nvidia that it only beat the 5970 in a few tests.

    I would laugh about it, if it wasn't so pathetic.

    waway625, how was Charlie right, it idles at 45c not 70c, and its not 600mhz, and only 5% if you hand pick games.
    He claimed so much stuff some of it had to be right, but the majority of it was nonsense, only an idiot or a blind fanboy would side with him.
     
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  2. ottoyu34

    ottoyu34 Master Guru

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    Nice review!! Thanks Hilbert
     
  3. dchalf10

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    Someone pointed something out to me the other day that made me wonder why everyone kept saying a dual card isn't possible....then charlies fear mongering came to mind...

    The 470 uses less power than a gtx275

    aka the card the gtx295 is based on

    So a dual card is easily doable, that + the 470 uses less power at idle than a 275...
     
  4. KCjoker

    KCjoker Ancient Guru

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    As always with a new card the prices are going to be a little too high. A month or two and these cards should come down in price and they will be a much better choice. The 470 looks awesome already and the 480 while very good isn't worth the price I never buy the top of the line cards.
     

  5. mitzi76

    mitzi76 Ancient Guru

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    and some people wouldnt dream of admitting that. spineless worms. need a good kicking.
     
  6. Corrupt^

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    Looks good, only fail part about it imo is the time it took for them to get released. I'll be getting a 480GTX in april (b-day ftw \o/). Btw all those people whining that they won't upgrade their 5870 to a 480 because and call it fail... wth, why? Seriously, unless you are bodar, going for a top score on 3D mark or whatever, WHY would you upgrade your card now.
     
  7. Redemption80

    Redemption80 Ancient Guru

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    Actually, looking at that again, that is 100% incorrect unless he was speaking about the GTX470, and even that doesn't idle at anywhere near 70c, 43c i think HH said.
     
  8. jed_tb

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    NOT IMPRESSED.
    what a joke - theyv spent how long rolling this out for basically only marginal gains in some areas. their on the backburner thats pretty obvious. ati can pretty much release their rev2s now and just laugh.
    and power comp is important as its a clear sign of effeciancy - something these arent.

    but yeh i guess il get called an ati fanboy or some crap now - despite my last 3 cards being nvidia, but whatever......
     
  9. Stukov

    Stukov Ancient Guru

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    Well I think it is fair to compare the GTX 480 and 5970 just as it was fair to compare the GTX 295 and 5870 so long as they are at the same price point (which can be debated).
     
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    after reading through the review again, you're right, the 470 uses less power than a gtx275, hence a 470x2 is definitely plausible. A pity however that the same cannot be said about the 480
     

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    @Lane

    What's your point?

    "I wouldn't upgrade a gtx295 to a gtx480"

    Neither would I, I also would't upgrade from a 4870x2 or gtx260 sli, or gtx275 sli, or 4870 crossifre....

    Why the hell would anyone upgrade for say a 20% performance increase

    Which is exactly the reason I didn't buy a 5870....$500aus for a 20% performance increase and the price I pay for that is no physx, no profiles, and bad drivers....why would anyone???

    But for a 40-60% increase which is what the 480 offers + DX11, + cuda + better physx + 32aa, + anti jittering sampling, the value is absolutely there

    @getsuga12

    It's not really a pity, a 5870x2 or gtx285x2 was also not possible due to power constraints, but a dual card is always 5%< than the second best cards in sli or xfire.
     
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  12. maikai

    maikai Maha Guru

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    you really came in to post that? and in that case i guess i must be hilberts brother or him in disguise and heres a copy and paste from his review

    -NVIDIA regains the performance crown and is back in the saddle like a cowboy after a harsh shootout, riding its horse into the sunset.-

    so maybe its best you go zzzzzzzzz before you post again
     
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  13. mitzi76

    mitzi76 Ancient Guru

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    yeah fcking cheers. dream on. nvm.
     
  14. IPlayNaked

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    I was under the impression that we considering performance crown by best single-card results...

    Is that not how it works anymore?

    Hilbert and this guy have both said "Performance crown"

    Wouldn't this be "single GPU performance crown"?

    And I think a lot of people are overlooking the difference in fan sound in that HardOCP review. The GTXs are REALLY loud.

    I still wanna know, Hilbert, how loud the cards had to be to overclock?

    Also, power consumption increases the cost of ownership. You don't see it on your bill from newegg or whatever, but it is definitely money that you lose.
     
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    Why did they use Mass Effect instead of Mass Effect 2 in the benchmarks?
     

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    haha, point taken
     
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    Stukov Ancient Guru

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    Idle power means nothing, there is a 300 watt limit within ATX specs. The 470 uses 225 as a single card. They need to drop load power consumption by 50 watts to make a dual GPU card.

    Which would mean they need to reduce clocks by alot...or cut another cuda section out.
     
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    It will probably end up as a GTX 460x2
     
  19. crowTrobot

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    The results are very surprising to me. I wasn't expecting that many frame gains from the 470/480 but expected a lot more physX ability but I was wrong.

    I can't wait until the single card 3D vision and single card PhysX benches start to come out.
     
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    i think i agree.

    i for one hate these "performance crown" titles. gives people of a how shall i put it inflammatory nature to take things at face value...which in all honesty does sweet fa to encorourage a healthy discussion which is all what we want.
     

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