Great review, as usual! Well.. what can I say about these cards: they perform well, as expected. The problem is that they (Nvidia) are really late in the game this time so many hoped for a miracle or something, I don't know. Anyways, situation might improve a bit with more recent drivers..but overall it's a decent pair of cards which would make any gamer happy. But..there's always some room for improvements as ATI is really doing well this year so Nvidia will have to put more work to it to catch up.
Well, here is the start. First GTX480 LN2 results. http://hwbot.org/community/submissi...age___performance_geforce_gtx_480_24941_marks
Far Cry 2 is an Nvidia dominated game and Just Cause 2 doesn't even have the correct 5970 profile to engage dual GPU action so that isn't a great comparison. If you ask me the Nvidia cards doing well in HAWX was more impressive as ATI normally dominated it. You also have to remember that the 480 is more expensive than the 5870.
Great review.. the last page had some errors as in spelling but that's ok Anyways I'd be more inclined to grab a 470 also but not till they buckle down on some heat and power consumption with maybe a new revision update along with some better drivers. I won't pay over 250$ for it either as even at 300$ its too much based on all the other cards out there. I'm rather happy with my 9800GTX at the moment as it plays everything I have now good. Going to be a tough sell for me when I'm also thinking about purchasing a new 4X4 ATV!
That's just crazy, after 2 yrs, nvidia released a driver for which increased L4D performance by 30% with a single GPU. So they had a 2 year old game, with 2 year old hardware, and even after many performance optimisations with that game in older drivers ( 10% performance increase here and there, another 5% etc ), they still pumped out a driver that increased performance by 30% compared to the previous best aka 196.21....the nvidia drivers are awesome. I expect a 30% performance increase with this card over the next year or so, BASED on the fact that every gen nvidia does the same. EDIT: ATI have already released 2gb O.C versions of the 5870....they offer almost no difference in performance, 50frames to 52 frames etc... I don't see any 480 beater around the corner and it would be a worthwhile purchase, just as I don't see the 5970 being beaten for at least a year. The 480 should bring the price down on the 5970 a lot as well, so it will be an option for more people
These people already had their post typed out before they even saw the benchmarks, tbh im pretty sure some didn't even read the full thing. The hypocrisy does make me laugh though, and has been reversed from 7months ago, so many ATI guys were complaining that the 5870 shouldn't be compared to the GTX295, now so many think that the GTX480 should be compared to the 5970:bang: Give it a few months and the lead will be alot larger, and the 512SP card will also probably arrive soon. The cards may seem expensive to some, but for me they are pretty good value compared to the 5870 as Cuda and PhysX are very important to me, as is 3D, while Eyefinity is something i would never use, even if i did have 3 monitors/tv's. Yeah, i fully expect the drivers to unlock alot of performance, in Left4Dead my splitscreen performance went from 45fps to over 60fps, instantly made the game more enjoyable.
indeed and don't forget the 480 is more expensive because its generally faster, so more or less you get what you paid for hehe, add CUDA (very useful), PhysX and the likes and ye got a pretty good extras in the package. in the past you had to buy a PhysX card for additional money, now you get it for free. 499$ may not be as high as people think.
Its not really what show Guru3D review,........... Are you sure we speak about the same card? i know it's friday, and as you im a little bit drunk..
Why shouldn't they be compared (the 5870 and GTX 295)? They both are single slot solution, the only thing you have to consider is the dual GPU card.
all of those calling this a fail, take a look in the mirror and you will see someone who wrote a fail post. the cards take the crown back, plain and simple, and as another post mentioned this is an enthusiast site, power consumption blah blah, i mean really? so long as you have the numbers to give you the bigger e-peen then its just more fun to clock em even higher and come up with better ways to cool them even better. once again bottom line is this series of cards from nvidia takes back the speed crown. on that note i wont be buying one because im broke lol.
They ran a different time demo and didn't use AA. of course the results are different. Don't make me grab some launch benches of the 5870 to show how the 5870 got like 2 frames more than the 285 in crysis/warhead... http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.p...sk=view&id=373&Itemid=72&limit=1&limitstart=7 wow mind blowing improvements over the gtx285 on launch right there.... In time people will eat their words, as above, launch driver, O.C cards...the gtx480 will be a beast. It's just a damn shame the metro2033 is such a whore and is making all these expensive cards look like cheap tricks...
Getting performance increases like that are the exception not the norm for either team, you shouldn't expect it at all.
I'm not surprised by the numbers, considering that a few of us have already predicted it to be this way. I do, however, agree that with newer drivers we can expect better overall performance, so in time we can expect to see these cards pull further away. That said, what disappointed me was the power consumption and heat issue, something that would matter little to enthusiasts anyway. Wonder how they'll dish out a dual-gpu card (maybe a 470x2? definitely can't see a 480x2 happening). Price-wise, we'll see how it goes. Surprisingly retail prices for ATi cards in my country have always been the same since launch, so I could grab another HD5850 for cheap (which I might do later on). Hopefully the arrival of Fermi influences these prices. I know I'll be grabbing a Nvidia card to run Physx soon. The last thing I'll put in is that I doubt all 5800 owners will jump ship, as I myself don't really see it as a viable upgrade option. Crossfire would probably be better for us. But, for those who didn't jump the gun to ATi, by all means, the GTX480/470 is what you've been waiting for
lol, yeaaah, my 285 in other time demo without AA hit 200fps.. all bench put the 480 far aways from the 5970. what you want? say the 480 equal or will equal the 5970? when with 6 moths late it just put the 5870 with some fps back? actually i will not exchange a 295 against a 480 for be honest.. I like the fact some peoples are totally blind... Im sorry but 6months of work for do better of the 5870, and that's all? an average of 5fps more? an overlcocked card will gain 5fps more lol... Outside the fact i really doubt it will just approach ATI crowns in HWbot by far, cause i really don't see how i will stabilise my LN2 with thoses watts.. really... Benching with 480 look for me really hazardous now... I can be wrong.. The GTX470 look interesting, specially if it oc well, i m sure we will see some good Super OC cards from XFX; PNY etc. who will be really fine.
Power consumption does matter, many people have a certain sized power supply and can't buy a card that uses too much power. It also increases power bill, so unless the card that uses more power costs less, to offset the need to purchase a more expensive (or a new) PSU matters.
All looked good to me. Price of GTX470 is interesting, but, I think I'll go with GTX480 cause I like the performance just that bit better. Should last me 2yrs hopefully with a cpu upgrade somewhere along the line to boost performance. Now to save-up. Doh.
what hes saying i sthat people were saying it wasnt a fair comparison because of that very reason, so the numbers werent blowing an older series card out of the water, and was infact losing in some benchies, just like he said at launch. and now look how the tide has turned and... i mean.... read what he wrote again and think about it
