GeForce 466.11 WHQL driver download & discussion

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce Drivers Section' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Apr 14, 2021.

  1. Cave Waverider

    Cave Waverider Maha Guru

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    Indeed. One thing I could think of is that you have to enable Above 4G Decoding on the Mainboard to be able to enable Resizable BAR (of course). Enabling Above 4G Decoding alone could lead to performance issues in certain games, even without enabling Resizable BAR (I've seen that before Resizable BAR was an option on my system, for example). The exact hardware configuration, resolution and game settings may play into what kind of performance gains (or losses) you see with ReBAR enabled as well. There are lots of variables to consider.

    The whitelist seems to work fine on my computer, I can enable or disable it per application profile with Nvidia Profile Inspector and it seems to actually work for me that way in the games I tried.
    Just because some youtube streamer that doesn't seem to be interested in researching why they are getting the results is stating something as fact, doesn't mean it has to be so universally. Perhaps if credible journalists begin to report the same thing and cover all their bases there could be something to it, but right now I'm skeptical that the whitelist wouldn't work as I'm seeing different results myself.

    I myself would love to see Hilbert research the matter with various system configurations and settings in one of his nicely written articles.


    Back to the topic of the thread, the 466.11 drivers seem to be working fine for me on various systems in any games and applications we've been using here.
     
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  2. MMXMMX

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    I had to update my video card bios (To get Resizable BAR ) and put in the beta bios and gained 200 points in Port royal.

    Asus Tuf 3090 OC bios version beta 1901
     
  3. vf

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    What have they done to GeForce Experience... My god, why do they keep changing stuff that is unnecessary.

    Is this the "ERA Corrupt"?
     
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    Mineria Ancient Guru

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    You can install the driver without GFE unless you really need it, I only used in the past for recording/streaming, the rest of GFE is just bloat.
     
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    No it didn't, you're just reading into things more than you should. :rolleyes:

    Ask the developers of Valheim

    Post a media resource that is actually trustworthy.

    There are no performance changes for this driver regarding Destiny 2, runs the same as always once shaders are cached


    Remove third party utilities, clean install the driver - run disk cleanup in admin elevation and clean the directx shaders.


    Use nsight to analyze your system for causes of hitching and stutters
    https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/using-nsight-systems-for-fixing-stutters-in-games/

    Then follow on with these if it doesn't display a trigger or theres evidence the issue is in the nvidia driver.

    How to generating an event trace log for GPUView to troubleshoot performance issues/low FPS/game stutter

    https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/ans...e-log-for-gpuview-to-troubleshoot-performance

    Collecting GPU logs using GPU-Z
    https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4749/

    At least one of the logs from the last 2 links is required for nvidia to take action against reported performance changes.
     
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    Thans, Ill try out and report back with hopefully more information.
     
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    I use DDU to uninstall every driver before I do a install of every new nvidia driver. I have never had any issues with destiny 2 with any previous drivers. My FPS are dipping into the 80’s and stuttering with this new one where with previous drivers they were a constant 97fps. I’ve changed nothing on my system apart from the driver. Reverting back to 465.89 gives me the same performance I had previously. Not sure what else to say. I thought this thread was for reporting issues and then I get a response like I’m making it up. Anyway I’ve reported it and I’m happy enough on previous driver so I will wait to see if a newer driver comes out with no issues.
     
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  8. Astyanax

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    Most issues only exist on a given users machine because of reasons specific to that machine,
    the game is running as usual for myself, since its changed for you, you have to go through the same ordeal as Hunti2k or else theres insufficient information to allocate a developer to looking at it.

    nobody said to use ddu btw, its an over-utilized application and more likely to cause issues in the absence of them.

    Btw, Somebody shows up with a framerate loss in destiny 2 every other driver that can't be reproduced widely - also a windows security update just dropped at the same time which might also contribute.
     
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    Or perhaps there are more then one factor that can influence this. Why would they make things intentionally slower, on their latest GPUs no less? That makes no sense whatsoever.
     
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    Seems to me guru3d forums is infested with blind fanbois and simps to this site and nvidia.
    Really Hardware Unboxed is not trustworthy? Yeah, you guys are pathetic in your fanboism.

    Here, besides Hardware Unboxed, how about Kitguru? Or are they not trustworthy too?
    You can clearly see in this test that Hitman 3 which is on the "whitelist" gets negative performance with ReBAR ON:


    I can't wait for more nonsense and excuses from you guys... but frankly I'm wasting time here with ignorant people. So I'll leave it like this as my last reply on the subject.

    So far ReBAR on nvidia GPUs is worse than on AMD, and that's a fact. See ya in 1 year or 2, like it happened with DLSS and RTX, that's how long it takes nvidia to make the tech actually relevant and working properly.
     
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    Hardware unboxed are on a revenge streak with the intention to milk as much viewer advertising revenue as they can, the one that they let do gpu reviews these days is a hardcore radeon fantard and displays his bias without hesitation.

    Not to mention, they get into arguments with actual qualified people when corrected rather than redact and update their articles and videos.

    Results deviating from those published by nvidia demonstrate a factor is present on the system that wasn't on their own, that factor can be fault or application caused.

    At the present time, nobody knows if the Bar size is locked by the whitelisted games to Vram size or if it can dynamically change as unwhitelisted applications run.

    What is known, is that the results nvidia achieved used either in game performance metrics, or GFE. no other tools would have been used.
     
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    Not that. They've changed how the overlays work. When you go back to the desktop, past versions the fps counter vanishes. Then it would load up with a game.

    Now you're stuck with a static fps number on the desktop after gaming, then you've to disable it and reactive it so now you're stuck with N/A stuck on the screen until a game starts.

    The NVIDIA GeForce Experience forum is full of complaints about it.
     
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    I don't do updates regularly for each version but every couple releases.
    So far this release seams good and they final have really fixed something! The image rendering and filtering (2D) whose long time broken, now performance is 4x and 2.5x up (this will affect daily usage).
    The overlay DX11 and DX12 performance is around 5% better and DX10 is 10% up. Seems as a good release after rather long time.
     
  14. Mineria

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    Doubt they changed it with intention to bug like you described it.
    I still recommend to use something else to provide the overlay, just that it isn't possible to select exactly what and what not to display freaks me out, GFEs implementation is trash, way to limited.
     
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    Your head is so up you *** that you don't see reality as it is. There is no revenge streak, they (HU) point out the flaws of both nvidia and AMD (I don't need to post every single video of them bashing AMD just because you and others like you are blind ignorants).
    The only difference is that when they did that to nvidia, because they think are the king of the world when it comes to GPUs, or maybe everything - their ego has no match, they punished (or tried to) HU and the entire fiasco is well known - I don't need to repeat it. That's the difference between them, AMD takes criticism with decency, while nvidia and Jensen throw a temper tantrum and start retaliating at the person who found the issue, instead of fixing that said issue.

    Keep telling yourself all the lies you need to, only blind ignorants like yourself and some others here believe it. Looks like a cesspool of nvidiots in this forum.

    Hardware Unboxed is one of the better channels and it's the complete opposite of what your lies say. Lately more and more guru3d seems to be flawed and biased though, how ironic.

    You can spin it all you want, I don't care about your (and other fanbois) excuses, the whitelist is a PR BS list and it's not working as stated, it's more random than predictable.

    All games on the list should offer performance gains, not just some of them and others negative performance. If it doesn't do what it should do, than nvidia should not lie about the way the list works and it's purpose. Simple.
    There is a reason AMD does not have a whitelist like this, even though their performance is even better in those games that work with SAM, they know it would be a lie to have a whitelist when it does not work the same for everyone (or the vast majority), yet nvidia has the nerve to make that claims.

    It's not like this is the fist time nvidia lied to our faces.

    Let's see:
    - RTX - absent in 1st year, after more than 2 year now it barely catches on. So early adopters were beta testers and lied about while they were playing RTX in their dreams. Glad I wasn't that fool.
    - DLSS - same as above.
    - "nvidia cares about gamers" = yeah so much that they sell GPUs directly to miners worth of hundreds on millions of $$$ (or more?), then they say they fight miners with 1 GPU (lol? moking us) the 3060 (the rest of the lineup is handed to them on a silver platter) to which they release the wrong drivers so miners can actually unlock the mining on it after release; - then they also release a dedicated series of cards just for mining, when they could have released those for gaming and at least there would have been a chance for everyone (miners and gamers alike) - theoretically, if not after the crypto crash would have been available on the used market, but not anymore.

    Those are enough lies and PR BS for me to distrust this company, and these are just from the top of my head in the past 2-3 years, I don't even need to go further back, I know there are more.

    nvidia = once a liar always a liar. *(this applies to all liars, but we're talking about them here)

    All my GPUs were/are from nvidia: 8800 gts, gtx 680, gtx 1060, gtx 1080. I'm done with their BS and how they treat gamers. I'll be looking for AMD and Intel GPUs from now on.

    And no AMD and Intel are not without faults either, they are just the lesser evils (well Intel 1st needs to prove a lot of good things for their GPUs to matter).

    Don't bother replying I won't respond to more lies and excuses, I'm done wasting my time with this subject.
     
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    They did. Read their forums. Numerous complaint threads on the issue.
    Besides, I use GeForce Experience for easy quick recording/clips and it's handy for fast screenshots as well as the FPS overlay all in one. Been using it since 2017.
     
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    Doesn't bother me personally, I don't see much point in having a permanent FPS counter on my screen when gaming.
    But yeah now you have to manually toggle it, default keybind is ALT+R. A bit annoying but still quicker than going into overlay settings to toggle it on/off.
     
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    Congratulations. You just earned an ignore from me.
     
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    Found the issue, just not sure if its a problem at Nvidia site or MSI site.

    I had my Laptop running in Discrete graphic mode, not Hybrid Mode, as I dont want to loose performance because of Nvidia Optimus.

    Discrete Graphic Mode with drivers until 461.40 is working perfectly, but every driver after 461.40 gives the problems as mentioned above.

    The only workaround is switching back to Hybrid Mode in BIOS - after that, also the newer drivers are working. Strange ... I hope this can get fixed.

    Anyone with some hints or tipps?

    @ManuelG Maybe a good information for you, that newer Nvidia drivers are going to make problems with Laptop Discrete Modes enabled? Already also opened a ticket to MSI support.
     
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    I'm quite sure that it never was Nvidia's idea that the FPS counter should freeze on desktop... aren't there also still choices when it comes to display stats on screen with GFE?
    As I recall from some weeks ago it was possible to disable the desktop overlay and have it in game only.
    I switched to other recording/streaming software which is better and will work with any GPU.

    Apart from that the driver 466.11 works fine with all games I played since install.
     

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