GeForce 378.92 WHQL driver download & Discussion

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  1. JonasBeckman

    JonasBeckman Ancient Guru

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    Neither AMD nor Nvidia have WDDM 2.2 compatibility in their release drivers yet far as I'm aware but I don't see that as being a problem and it'll be resolved soon enough. (Perhaps even before the full public release of RS2 on April 11th, we'll see I suppose.)

    Plenty of people using insider builds too so these probably work just fine on RS2 or Creator or 1704 and whatever else Windows 10.x is called this time. :D

    Can't really help much with this since I'm currently on a AMD GPU but I don't see this OS update as being a problem or these drivers as having issues with said OS update though a re-install of the drivers after upgrading from RS1 might be recommended unless you're going for a clean install instead of a in-place upgrade. :)



    EDIT: And as for RS2 and gaming I'm not too certain on the more in-depth changes, RS1 already did a couple of things with WDDM 2.1, DXGI 1.5 and D3D11.4 plus other changes and I'm not sure if the full specs of RS2 are available yet aside from some vague info from Microsoft and also shader model 6.0 but that's for upcoming future titles and won't affect existing games.
    https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/chuckw/2016/08/02/windows-10-anniversary-update-sdk/
    https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/mt661819.aspx?f=255&MSPPError=-2147217396
    https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/mt661818.aspx

    Might help with performance but I'm not sure we'll see any of the few current D3D12 games being patched with SM6.0 support, unsure if it means anything for Vulkan either though WDDM 2.1 is apparently a requirement for Vulkan and SLI/Crossfire multi-GPU being fully functional.
    (That driver layer, not DirectX as such but something with that and the OS.)
    (EDIT: Or perhaps not? - https://www.khronos.org/blog/vulkan-multi-gpu-support-not-just-for-windows-10 Good to see that clarified further.)
     
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  2. dr_rus

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    RS2 being RS2 as in another enhancement of previously released Windows version I don't expect any issues with games or anything really.
     
  3. endbase

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    Confirmed on RS2 latest build no problems with games only some other minor bugs !
     
  4. haste

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    Is there really a reason to go for Creators? SM6 is still not finalized, Game Mode has an unknown effect on game performance and I don't really care about some security updates.

    I'm still on W10 version 1511 (b10586) that is right before the Anniversary update. I have absolutely no issues what so ever and plan to go for the Creators Update at some point.

    But to be honest, I'm kinda struggling with the idea, because I hear people having issues with Anniversary update with bugs not being solved even in Creators update etc. (like black screen issues on X79 chipsets).

    So update or not to update, that is the question...
     

  5. endbase

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    If you have doubts don't update in my opinion ! At least you can try the build you prefere in VM player for example and see what it brings and how It works on your machine.
     
  6. khanmein

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    did u contact the mobo manufacture & asked them to update the microcode?
     
  7. haste

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    You are probably referring to that mentioned X79 black screen issue. I was mentioning it as worst case scenario example. As you see in my signature, I'm still rocking the old SB P67 chipset, so no, I did not :)

    Maybe I should rephrase the question. Are there ANY known issues with SB + P67 + GTX1080 running Creators Update?
     
  8. dr_rus

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    Same reason as always - software will be developed and optimized for the latest OS version which would be 1703 starting on 11th of April.

    You being on 1511 is locked out of several last DX12 releases which require 1607 updates to WDDM/DXGI/DX and pretty much all (?) 2016 UWP releases. As 1703 will update WDDM/DXGI/DX again this will again start to happen by the end of 2017 with those who are still on previous Win10 versions (gold/1511/1607).

    I'm using 1607 since its release, and I don't see any bugs beyond some issues with 3rd party authentication USB keys which are solvable through a workaround.
     
  9. kurtextrem

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    Thank you guys, signed up in the Insider circle for the release previews. Gonna report back once I have it.
     
  10. haste

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    Optimization is the last thing I'm concerned about tbh. I also have W7 on my machine and DX11 games run absolutely the same or even better on W7, differences are minimal.

    The WDDM update is probably the only thing I'm interested in. Because for example full HW accelerated decoding of VP9 in HTML5 players will only be available for WDDM2.1+ systems. But it also brings some compatibility concerns like some Bethesda games not launching (I guess that was fixed already) etc...

    So nevermind, I guess I'll just wait a few months to see what's what and then I'll decide.
     

  11. dr_rus

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    While such issues are certainly possible I don't expect them from a RS1->RS2 update. Threshold->Redstone was a big kernel update, RS1->RS2 is mostly some enhancements and patches. 1703 is a rather minor update all things considered.
     
  12. cryohellinc

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    What RS2 did for me is mess up some registry, and user files. It literally moved them. As a result some apps just work, but you can't see them anymore in registry. Some just don't, but start working fine right after reinstalling them. Always the same thing with those major updates.

    But I do like Game Mode addition, while a bit buggy (when alt tabbing out a game of full-screen movie) nvidia color settings reset. On a bright side, i do get several extra fps here and there, but most importantly I get better frame times and latency. That is crucial for me. On average my main benchmark was world of tanks - worst optimisation in the world, but with game mode average ms times dropped from 10.5, to 7-8ms. Little but nice.
     
  13. haste

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    I don't find 20% decrease in frame times a little :) If that result will be verified, then it would be awesome, but I'm a bit skeptical...

    Anyway it's funny you mentioned WoT because I did work on it for almost a year and believe me that their BigWorld engine is a real mess. I've never seen worse codebase ever in my life.
     
  14. RealNC

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    Going from 95FPS to 133FPS is not "little" :p
     
  15. cryohellinc

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    I haven't tested many games yet, busy with work. Will do more testing this weekend. Some games dont start because of RivaTuner O_O. If you turn off a game in it / or simply turn off RivaTuner they magically start working. Something for Guru team to look at in future.

    Glad to see a dev that worked on WoT, any optimisation tips from you? :) Also why is game capped at 120fps?

    Oho wow, which title? Simply i cant see that, as I have 99.5fps cap on driver level so that Gsync would always run on my screen,
     

  16. Extraordinary

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    Game mode gave a boost of almost 40fps?

    I have major doubts game mode was the reason for such a boost
     
  17. khanmein

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    maybe the boost is for those users that has iGPU.
     
  18. RealNC

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    I'm referring to his frame times. 7.5ms is 133FPS, 10.5FPS is 95FPS. He said his frame times dropped from 10.5 to 7-8.

    Unless he meant something else...
     
  19. RealNC

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    Probably miscommunication. See my post above.

    Off-topic: driver-level cap adds up to two frames of extra latency. RTSS adds only up to one. So use RTSS, not driver level capping :)

    This was tested here: http://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3073
     
  20. cryohellinc

    cryohellinc Ancient Guru

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    That was a very interesting read. Thank you for sharing! Had no clue about some stuff there.

    .....P.S.

    Apparently i was using THE WORST possible combination for latency... ah what an idiot!

    [​IMG]
     
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