Geforce 180.84 Beta Drivers

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce Drivers Section' started by Digibetus, Dec 5, 2008.

  1. Digibetus

    Digibetus Member

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    Found something new :nerd:

    [​IMG] GeForce Forceware 180.84 Windows XP 64-bit
    [​IMG] GeForce Forceware 180.84 Windows Vista 64-bit
    [​IMG] GeForce Forceware 180.84 Windows Vista 32-bit
    [​IMG] GeForce Forceware 180.84 Windows XP 32-bit

    Installing as we post...

    ---edit---
    These are not the WHQL .48
    These are BETA .84

    nv_disp.inf:
    DriverVer = 12/02/2008, 7.15.11.8084

    With PhysX_8.10.13_SystemSoftware.exe so nothing new on the physx front.

    International version:
    GeForce Forceware 180.84 International Beta Drivers

    GeForce Forceware 180.84 Windows XP 32-bit
    GeForce Forceware 180.84 Windows XP 64-bit
    GeForce Forceware 180.84 Windows Vista 32-bit
    GeForce Forceware 180.84 Windows Vista 64-bit

    Supported GPU:
    * GeForce GTX 280
    * GeForce GTX 260
    * GeForce 9800 GX2
    * GeForce 9800 GTX+
    * GeForce 9800 GTX
    * GeForce 9800 GT
    * GeForce 9600 GT
    * GeForce 9600 GSO
    * GeForce 9500 GT
    * GeForce 9500 GS
    * GeForce 9400 GT
    * GeForce 9400
    * GeForce 9300
    * GeForce 9200
    * GeForce 8800 Ultra
    * GeForce 8800 GTX
    * GeForce 8800 GTS 512
    * GeForce 8800 GTS
    * GeForce 8800 GT
    * GeForce 8800 GS

    Supported Languages:
    * English (USA)
    * English (UK)
    * Arabic
    * Chinese (Simplified)
    * Chinese (Traditional)
    * Czech
    * Danish
    * Dutch
    * Finnish
    * French
    * German
    * Hebrew
    * Greek
    * Hungarian
    * Italian
    * Japanese
    * Korean
    * Norwegian
    * Polish
    * Portuguese (Brazil)
    * Portuguese (Euro/Iberian)
    * Russian
    * Slovak
    * Slovenian
    * Spanish
    * Spanish (Latin America)
    * Swedish
    * Thai
    * Turkish

    (International drivers found by XeonFX.)
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Dec 9, 2008
  2. kalispimenta

    kalispimenta Member Guru

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    Same here:banana:
    Thank You
     
  3. Black_ice_Spain

    Black_ice_Spain Ancient Guru

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    at the end they werent a typo of 180.48? xP will test in gta IV xP
     
  4. holystarlight

    holystarlight Master Guru

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    Testing them atm, so far My issue with my gtx280s switching to the 2D clock when playing games seems to have been fixed in these.
     

  5. zeek

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    When you end test, tell us. I'm waiting ;)
     
  6. Hekynn

    Hekynn Master Guru

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    Nice hopefully the next drivers will be the new WHQL ones but still I like the 180.48 drivers they kick butt!
     
  7. sunkid

    sunkid Master Guru

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    Nice found. Now let's test these with the so-called PC game crappy port also known as GTA IV. I wonder if they will boost performance a la Lost Planet way - that is with 80%.

    :)

    Joking ofc.
     
  8. Black_ice_Spain

    Black_ice_Spain Ancient Guru

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    I feel it smoother and it also had GTA profile i think (altho i think that my nhancer removed it xP, had to do one manually),

    Also i had a problem that game would crash 2sec after start (while it shows the license, copyright letters etc...) and i had to start with -windowed mode, now it works on fullscreen xP
     
  9. maccarulez

    maccarulez Member Guru

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  10. zeek

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    Ok. I'm waiting still for opinion other people.
     

  11. F_L_C

    F_L_C Member Guru

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    Thanks for the heads up. I'll have these uploaded shortly w/ support for all cards (assuming the INF is just like all the other 180.xx). Where's the International version?

    Edit1: no need to mod INF, supports all desktop GPUs GF 6-200 already. Finally, an official release that supports all.

    Edit2: something new in this driver that may be of interest to video-editors. There's a new file called "NvPVEnc.ax" and, if expanded, turns out to be "NVIDIA Pure Video Encoder, Version 180.84".

    Edit3: I have created an International version using the language files from the International 180.70. The language files are only used for the CP and should have no effect on the core driver files (such as nv4_disp.dll, nvoglnt.dll, nv4_mini.sys, etc.). Does not include PhysX (the version included w/ this beta [v8.10.13] is outdated anyways):

    180.84 XP32 International (74.7MB): http://www.mediafire.com/?i2jdwuynmzt
     
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2008
  12. hochi1942

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    any reason these won't install on a 7600gt even with a modified ini?
     
  13. Pey

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    thanks for the news
     
  14. Black_ice_Spain

    Black_ice_Spain Ancient Guru

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    delete physx installer =)
     
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    tried and didn't work
     

  16. maccarulez

    maccarulez Member Guru

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    Did you try ur regular driver cleaner or w/e?
     
  17. Black_ice_Spain

    Black_ice_Spain Ancient Guru

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    try 180.48 .inf file or any other from 180.s that you have, maybe you did it bad :X

    different version inf should work

    or maybe try with the normal .inf
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    NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_02E0.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT"
     
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2008
  18. Cybermancer

    Cybermancer Don Quixote

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    Nice finding, and welcome to Guru3D, Digibetus! :thumbup:

    Supported cards:

    NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00F1.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT"
    NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00F2.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6600"
    NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00F3.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6200"
    NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00F4.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6600 LE"
    NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00F5.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GS"
    NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00F6.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GS/XT"
    NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00F8.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 3400/4400"
    NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00F9.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Series GPU"
    NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_02E0.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT"
    NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_02E1.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS"
    NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_02E2.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT"
    NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_02E3.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GS"
    NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_02E4.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GT"
    NVIDIA_G70.DEV_0090.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX"
    NVIDIA_G70.DEV_0091.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX "
    NVIDIA_G70.DEV_0092.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT"
    NVIDIA_G70.DEV_0093.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GS "
    NVIDIA_G70.DEV_0095.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7800 SLI"
    NVIDIA_G70.DEV_009D.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500"
    NVIDIA_G71.DEV_0290.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GTX"
    NVIDIA_G71.DEV_0291.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GT/GTO"
    NVIDIA_G71.DEV_0292.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GS "
    NVIDIA_G71.DEV_0293.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GX2"
    NVIDIA_G71.DEV_0294.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GX2 "
    NVIDIA_G71.DEV_0295.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GT "
    NVIDIA_G71.DEV_029C.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 5500"
    NVIDIA_G71.DEV_029D.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 3500"
    NVIDIA_G71.DEV_029E.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 1500"
    NVIDIA_G71.DEV_029F.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 X2"
    NVIDIA_G72.DEV_01D0.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7350 LE"
    NVIDIA_G72.DEV_01D1.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7300 LE"
    NVIDIA_G72.DEV_01D2.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7550 LE"
    NVIDIA_G72.DEV_01D3.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS"
    NVIDIA_G72.DEV_01DB.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro NVS 120M"
    NVIDIA_G72.DEV_01DD.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7500 LE"
    NVIDIA_G72.DEV_01DE.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 350"
    NVIDIA_G72.DEV_01DF.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GS"
    NVIDIA_G73.DEV_038B.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7650 GS"
    NVIDIA_G73.DEV_0390.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7650 GS "
    NVIDIA_G73.DEV_0391.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT "
    NVIDIA_G73.DEV_0392.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS "
    NVIDIA_G73.DEV_0393.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT "
    NVIDIA_G73.DEV_0394.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7600 LE"
    NVIDIA_G73.DEV_0395.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT "
    NVIDIA_G73.DEV_039E.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 560"
    NVIDIA_G80.DEV_0191.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX"
    NVIDIA_G80.DEV_0193.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS"
    NVIDIA_G80.DEV_0194.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8800 Ultra"
    NVIDIA_G80.DEV_0197.1 = "NVIDIA Tesla C870"
    NVIDIA_G80.DEV_019D.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600"
    NVIDIA_G80.DEV_019E.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 4600"
    NVIDIA_G84.DEV_0400.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS"
    NVIDIA_G84.DEV_0401.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT"
    NVIDIA_G84.DEV_0402.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT "
    NVIDIA_G84.DEV_0403.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8600GS"
    NVIDIA_G84.DEV_0404.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS"
    NVIDIA_G84.DEV_0406.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8300 GS"
    NVIDIA_G84.DEV_040A.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 370"
    NVIDIA_G84.DEV_040E.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 570"
    NVIDIA_G84.DEV_040F.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 1700"
    NVIDIA_G86.DEV_0420.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8400 SE"
    NVIDIA_G86.DEV_0421.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT"
    NVIDIA_G86.DEV_0422.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS "
    NVIDIA_G86.DEV_0423.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8300 GS "
    NVIDIA_G86.DEV_0424.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS "
    NVIDIA_G86.DEV_042C.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GT"
    NVIDIA_G86.DEV_042F.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro NVS 290"
    NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0600.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 512"
    NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0601.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT"
    NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0602.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT"
    NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0604.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GX2"
    NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0605.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT "
    NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0606.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS"
    NVIDIA_G92.DEV_060D.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS "
    NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0610.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GSO"
    NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0611.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT "
    NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0612.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+"
    NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0613.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX+"
    NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0614.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT "
    NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0619.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 4700 X2"
    NVIDIA_G92.DEV_061A.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 3700"
    NVIDIA_G92.DEV_061B.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro VX 200"
    NVIDIA_G94.DEV_0622.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT"
    NVIDIA_G94.DEV_0623.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GS"
    NVIDIA_G94.DEV_0625.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GSO 512"
    NVIDIA_G94.DEV_062D.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT "
    NVIDIA_G94.DEV_062E.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT "
    NVIDIA_G94.DEV_0637.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT "
    NVIDIA_G96.DEV_0640.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT"
    NVIDIA_G96.DEV_0641.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GT "
    NVIDIA_G96.DEV_0642.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS "
    NVIDIA_G96.DEV_0643.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT "
    NVIDIA_G96.DEV_0644.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GS"
    NVIDIA_G96.DEV_0645.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GS "
    NVIDIA_G96.DEV_065B.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GT "
    NVIDIA_G98.DEV_06E0.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9300 GE"
    NVIDIA_G98.DEV_06E1.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9300 GS"
    NVIDIA_G98.DEV_06E2.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8400"
    NVIDIA_G98.DEV_06E3.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8300 GS "
    NVIDIA_G98.DEV_06E4.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS "
    NVIDIA_G98.DEV_06E7.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9300 SE"
    NVIDIA_G98.DEV_06F8.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro NVS 420"
    NVIDIA_G98.DEV_06F9.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 370 LP"
    NVIDIA_G98.DEV_06FA.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro NVS 450"
    NVIDIA_NV40.DEV_0040.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra"
    NVIDIA_NV40.DEV_0041.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800"
    NVIDIA_NV40.DEV_0042.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 LE"
    NVIDIA_NV40.DEV_0043.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 XE"
    NVIDIA_NV40.DEV_0044.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 XT"
    NVIDIA_NV40.DEV_0045.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT"
    NVIDIA_NV40.DEV_0047.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GS"
    NVIDIA_NV40.DEV_0048.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 XT "
    NVIDIA_NV40.DEV_004D.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 3400"
    NVIDIA_NV40.DEV_004E.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 4000"
    NVIDIA_NV41.DEV_00C0.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GS "
    NVIDIA_NV41.DEV_00C1.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 "
    NVIDIA_NV41.DEV_00C2.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 LE "
    NVIDIA_NV41.DEV_00C3.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 XT "
    NVIDIA_NV41.DEV_00CD.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI"
    NVIDIA_NV41.DEV_00CE.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 1400"
    NVIDIA_NV43.DEV_0140.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT "
    NVIDIA_NV43.DEV_0141.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6600 "
    NVIDIA_NV43.DEV_0142.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6600 LE "
    NVIDIA_NV43.DEV_0143.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6600 VE"
    NVIDIA_NV43.DEV_0145.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6610 XL"
    NVIDIA_NV43.DEV_0147.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6700 XL"
    NVIDIA_NV43.DEV_014A.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro NVS 440"
    NVIDIA_NV43.DEV_014C.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 540M"
    NVIDIA_NV43.DEV_014D.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 550"
    NVIDIA_NV43.DEV_014E.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 540"
    NVIDIA_NV43.DEV_014F.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6200 "
    NVIDIA_NV44.DEV_0160.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6500"
    NVIDIA_NV44.DEV_0161.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM)"
    NVIDIA_NV44.DEV_0162.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6200SE TurboCache(TM)"
    NVIDIA_NV44.DEV_0163.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6200 LE"
    NVIDIA_NV44.DEV_0165.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro NVS 285"
    NVIDIA_NV44.DEV_0169.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6250"
    NVIDIA_NV44.DEV_016A.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7100 GS"
    NVIDIA_NV44.DEV_0221.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6200 "
    NVIDIA_NV44.DEV_0222.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6200 A-LE"
    NVIDIA_NV45.DEV_0046.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT "
    NVIDIA_NV48.DEV_0211.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 "
    NVIDIA_NV48.DEV_0212.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 LE "
    NVIDIA_NV48.DEV_0215.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT "
    NVIDIA_NV48.DEV_0218.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 XT "
    NVIDIA_C51.DEV_0240.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6150"
    NVIDIA_C51.DEV_0241.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE"
    NVIDIA_C51.DEV_0242.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6100"
    NVIDIA_C51.DEV_0245.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro NVS 210S / NVIDIA GeForce 6150LE"
    NVIDIA_C61.DEV_03D0.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430"
    NVIDIA_C61.DEV_03D1.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 405"
    NVIDIA_C61.DEV_03D2.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 400"
    NVIDIA_C61.DEV_03D5.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 420"
    NVIDIA_C68.DEV_053A.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7050 PV / NVIDIA nForce 630a"
    NVIDIA_C68.DEV_053B.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7050 PV / NVIDIA nForce 630a "
    NVIDIA_C68.DEV_053E.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7025 / NVIDIA nForce 630a"
    NVIDIA_C73.DEV_07E0.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7150 / NVIDIA nForce 630i"
    NVIDIA_C73.DEV_07E1.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7100 / NVIDIA nForce 630i"
    NVIDIA_C73.DEV_07E2.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7050 / NVIDIA nForce 630i"
    NVIDIA_C73.DEV_07E3.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7050 / NVIDIA nForce 610i"
    NVIDIA_C73.DEV_07E5.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 7050 / NVIDIA nForce 620i"
    NVIDIA_C77.DEV_0848.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8300"
    NVIDIA_C77.DEV_0849.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8200"
    NVIDIA_C77.DEV_084A.1 = "NVIDIA nForce 730a"
    NVIDIA_C77.DEV_084B.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8200 "
    NVIDIA_C77.DEV_084C.1 = "NVIDIA nForce 780a SLI"
    NVIDIA_C77.DEV_084D.1 = "NVIDIA nForce 750a SLI"
    NVIDIA_C77.DEV_084F.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8100 / nForce 720a"
    NVIDIA_C79.DEV_0861.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9400"
    NVIDIA_C79.DEV_0860.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9300"
    NVIDIA_C79.DEV_0864.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9300 "
    NVIDIA_C79.DEV_0865.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9300 "
    NVIDIA_C79.DEV_0868.1 = "NVIDIA nForce 760i SLI"
    NVIDIA_C79.DEV_086A.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9400 "
    NVIDIA_C79.DEV_086C.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9300 / nForce 730i"
    NVIDIA_C79.DEV_086D.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9200"
    NVIDIA_C79.DEV_0871.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9200 "
    NVIDIA_C79.DEV_087A.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 470"
    NVIDIA_GT200.DEV_05E1.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280"
    NVIDIA_GT200.DEV_05E2.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260"
    NVIDIA_GT200.DEV_05E7.1 = "NVIDIA Tesla C1060"
    NVIDIA_GT200.DEV_05F8.1 = "NVIDIA Quadroplex 2200 S4"
    NVIDIA_GT200.DEV_05F9.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro CX"
    NVIDIA_GT200.DEV_05FD.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 5800"
    NVIDIA_GT200.DEV_05FE.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 4800"
     
  19. hochi1942

    hochi1942 Member

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    big improvement in GTA 4, much smoother compared to 180.70
     
  20. Digibetus

    Digibetus Member

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    Thanks Cybermancer.

    Never had a good reason to start posting but when i stumbled upon this...
    a real Sinterklaas gift ;)
     

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