Games keep crashing every ten minutes. Is this a hardware problem?

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  1. Steve30x

    Steve30x Master Guru

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    I dont have any spare thermal compuond to be able to reseat the CPU and yes the temps are good for the CPU. Also I tried with just one stick of ram and I dont have a spare PSU. I will try the last bios and see if that helps.

    Also I forgot to mention is that when I have the XMS3 ram installed I keep getting the NVidia driver has stopped responding error , but with the kingston ram that doesnt happen and Ive reseated the GPU.
     
  2. smnoamls

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    my 2 cents (seeing as it happened to me, I aint that smart) , you killed / uncovered a problem in your mobo.
    The cpu was checked by prime95, the gpu wont cause that problem.
    Since you switched ram sticks and changed them all over, then its the mobo.
    I dont know WHAT on the mobo, but at this point, does it matter?
    Try to grab a friends mobo or get a friendly local lab to help you test this hypothesis.
    Noam
     
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    I have a feeling its a problem with the motherboard myself. If it is Ill just switch to a P67 motherboard and CPU.
     
  4. Steve30x

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    Right. For all that said it was a Ram problem. I got a replacement stick of ram , ran memtest four passes with no errors and I am still having problems.

    @maleficarus™ : So what does common sense tell you now?
     

  5. prof72

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    Do you use auto memory timings?
    If you do try setting them manually and even lowering them a little.
    I cannot run my 2133 ram at that speed and have to manually set it to 1866 for example (bios problem).
    Also the voltage up it slightly if you can as some mobos will say 1.65 but actually run it at 1.63 (mine for example does this).
    Is there any chance you can try an older/friends GCard to rule out that?
    I had a very similar problem that turned out to be a faulty memory chip on my GTX570. Took me ages to figure that one out as it was random crashes in games only and everything else ran perfectly.
     
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    Yes I am using auto memory settings and its set to 9-9-9-24 1333MHz. The ram is 1600MHZ ram so I doubt thats the problem. Also I have an Nvidia 8600GT lying about. I will check if that makes any difference.
     
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    Try windows build-in memory diagnostic tool instead..Its more tough, memtest4.2 isn't as accurate as windows own memory diagnostic tool ..


    Really i saw it myself i passed 1090mhz with memtest4.2 but failed in win mem diag. tool even at 1080mhz..

    http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/715-memory-diagnostics-tool.html

    when you start the tool, press F1 and navigate with TAB, leave default test>> enable cache for all tests >> select at least 12-15repeats>> press F10 and let it run..

    If it detects an error it will probably between 23-29% per round (its testing Stride6 or plus LRAD) if it does find an error then loosen timings(advanced) a bit and repeat. If its all fine then test that QPI as somebody else suggested, idk about anything else..
     
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    I just done this with cache enabled and 15 passes with no errors.
     
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    ok so ram should be good..


    What about different gfx drivers, something like 270.90tesla or 270.61whql or older 267.xx?


    and are you sure its not your Cpu OC that's failing? now that you have 2x4gb it puts more stress on memory controller, even 1x4gb does:nerd:

    also disable all monitoring software that's if you use it (even asus stuff), to eliminate any conflicts while you play..
     
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    I've tried different drivers which make no difference and I dont have my CPU overclocked with the past two weeks. I dont have anything monitoring my hardware in the background either.

    I am thinking its either the motherboard or memory controller on the CPU could be gone bad.

    The problems only started when I changed my ram from 2 X 2GB Kingston Value RAM to the Corsair ram. Nothings been going right since even when I revert back to the Kingston ram I am having problems.
     

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    At what voltage are you running those new ram sticks, 1.65v?
     
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    http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=187401&st=0
     
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    Just over 1.65v My motherboard wont set the ram at just 1.65v.

     
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    but what if you set to 1.60v?

    I7 doesn't like to have higher voltage +0.03v or +0.05v can be to much..


    edit: wops i misunderstood, so you can't go low as 1.65v.. hmm and at what voltage did you run your old ram?
     
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    Im using a Core I5 nor I7. Also my motherboard will go a lot lower than 1.65v , but the ram requires 1.65v according to the info on its heat spreader.

    Anyway. I am after doing another clean install of an unmodified windows 7 X64 and everything is running perfect again. My problem must have been that I was installing windows with bad ram or I modified womething windows 7 that caused me problems.
     

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    Does the game run okay with everything at stock speeds?
     
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    hehe no need for nitpicking i5/i7 has the same memory controller, except one is dual other triple.. that voltage limit applies for both ;)


    at least you got ti fixed, cool :nerd:
     
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    I thought I had it fixed , but after two days I was back to the same old story , but its gradually getting worse now. When I am using firefox after a while I am getting The Nvidia Driver Stopped Responding too and games dont even run for ten minutes any more.

    So after think about this for a few days and many problems since the ram upgrade and things slowly getting worse I decided that Starting from today I am saving to buy the following parts and hopefully my problems will dissapear :

    Asus P8P67 Rev 3.0
    Corsair H100 CPU cooler
    Intel Core I5 2500K

    I know the motherboard isnt the best in the world and I wont be able to push the CPU as hard as I would like on it , but money is tight and I have no backup hardware.
     
  19. fenjen

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    Could be a software problem? Can't you do a clean install? If so only install the game('s) that is/are crashing and the needed drivers. Everest would be handy too. See if they still crash. Otherwise let your pc be checked at a specialist. They have spare hardware so can replace everything and see if it works again an get to the cause like that.

    One time my system was running unstable cause I downloaded a utility from my mobo manufacturer. It said it was for win 7 also but it screwed up my whole performance. So really only install the most needed drivers (if possible only your graph card drivers)
     
  20. Steve30x

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    Honestly did you read any of my other posts in this thread. I only reinstalled windows four days ago , Ive done everything youve mentioned along with everything else thats been suggested including running everything at stock settings and nothing helps.

    Another thing is I was working at a PC Hardware Soecialist for a while so I know what I am doing.
     

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