Game Ready Driver WHQL 465.89 download & discussion

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce Drivers Section' started by valorex, Mar 30, 2021.

  1. Astyanax

    Astyanax Ancient Guru

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    You need to look at "Both" his systems specifications.

    Also your reproduction on your hardware isn't relevant to his reported issue on his hardware, there are other causes of ReBar introducing oddness that are specific to systems themselves (Riser errors, a ****** up pcie controller, user modification of what core processes the interrupt of a particular driver) and that users with the same components also running the game (and youtubing it) without the stated issue indicates other aspects than just the driver are at play. As they always do but people want nvidia to fix issues with a crystal ball..... look how that turned out for microsoft and its telemetry based QA.

    a good majority of the those reporting fps drops across all games in the driver on the geforce forums simply had to restart the pc.....

    Heres that video again, of the 5950x that isn't stuttering and dropping fps across any games, which is in contrast to moab600's experience where the same cpu and a 3090 does drop fps in some of them.



    Rather than being disabled, the default behavior for unwhitelisted games is that transfers are limited to 256MB.
     
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    Welcome!
     
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    Any tipps, thoughts or experiences from you all?
     
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    If you have none of the mentioned problems with older driver then very likely a bug in this driver and not much you can do I think.

    Might even be specific to your laptop / GPU / display combination.

    If you want to try one more time, clean erase with DDU and then install 465.89.
     

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    Thx for your reply.

    Already tried a clean install with DDU, didnt change anything, still the same problems.

    So I guess I need to wait for a Hotfix or new driver release and hope problems are gone.
     
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    Did you caped your framerate below refresh rate?
     
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    Yip, also did that in some game testing, still the problems as mentioned.
    In Cyberpunk for example, I cant reach the 120 fps anyway haha
     
  8. PrMinisterGR

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    I got device removed crashes with this driver in Cemu (Vulkan). No setting has been changed in my system except the driver and enabling ReBar + Above 4G decoding in the BIOS.
     
  9. Astyanax

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    Haven't seen any reports on discord.
     
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    I thought 256MB chunks was always the default? Was it something else?
     

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    If unwhitelisted games are just limited to 256MB via GeForce driver, is there a drawback? What I mean is if the Hardware and the driver stack wants to adress the large address range but then there is a limit at the nvidia driver, might that cause issues or does everything that isn't whitelisted exactly run as "pre-rBAR"?

    I can't see any drawback on my PC so far, I am just curious...
     
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    They are, but its not really correct to say that ReBar gets disabled in the games that aren't whitelisted.

    I'm still not 100% on the specifics, but WDDM 2.0 made specific requirements for Bar reconfiguration to allow it on the fly without a reboot (the only reboot being to enable its capabilities at bios and firmware levels).

    The bar should reconfigure down to 256MB's when unwhitelisted games are running, and back to vram total on running one that does - it should even be possible to request a particular bar size..... ah... and that just gave me an idea on what could be occuring with people getting bad performance, unwhitelisted utilities running on top of whitelisted utilities causing the bar to flip between min and max capability (microsoft says the card won't service any requests during programming).

    I just reached that conclusion myself, since the bar is resizeable on the fly it could be doing so in certain conditions.

    https://composter.com.ua/documents/ECN_Resizable-BAR_24Apr2008.pdf
     
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    Wouldn't that mean that the Nvidia approach is kind of bad? In the sense that it requires too much control over a setting that should basically just be "there".

    I will try to enable ReBar in Cemu to see what happens. Also, what about applications ran via something like Steam big picture. Do they "inherit" those settings?
     
  14. Astyanax

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    the profile system isn't inheritance based, so the settings for steam/egs, etc do not affect the game.

    but the settings for both applications can load at the same time and affect them individually.

    Device state type settings are overides though, you can't have Optimal/Normal while another application has Prefer max, and both are active.

    if its been implemented properly, Rebar should respect the application setting the highest Bar size - so its possible theres not even an issue here.
     
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    Hi,
    for this driver,and the drivers latelely as well, there seems to be an increase in folders. I was curious, what are the only necessary install folders (for those of us only interested in driver, audio, and physics only)?
    (no telemetry, no ansel. no shadowplay, no geforce experience, no ras dll, no nvtopps, no FBC etc, just want core functionality and none of the fluff.

    I ask because even if you put a check mark in for just driver, audio and physics, the rest of the stuff gets installed anyhow, ignoring the check marks. This is what prompts me to do it manually.

    is it:
    Display Driver
    HD Audio
    Physics
    Nv12

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    are the PPC and nodejs folders necessary?
    (yes, and modify the cfg to remove Eula)

    I ask because one utility removes PPC but keeps geforce exp, - another utility removes the rest but keeps PPC, in this forum, there are dedicated and very kind folks that make clean versions, and the like, and they do a great job. Hence the question on the PPC and the nodejs folders.

    it seemed to work without those folders, but was curios what in core functionality are the requisite items.




    THX
     
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    Try the clean driver thread, but also enjoy a higher risk of more anomalies with your perpetual b0rk machine.
     
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    Not in WZ but I had one or two "device lost" crashes in Apex on alt-tab.
    But it's likely a game issue not drivers.
     
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    yes GTX 1070 .Cold War,Warzone,Dirt 5........crashes with DX error
     
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    oh look, more insider users who don't read threads beyond the title.
     

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