Gabe Newell Says Xbox Series X is Better Than PS5

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Co-founder of Valve Gabe Newell is stuck in New Zealand (not a bad place to be stuck tbh) due to a Corona quarantine. And that gave him some time for interviews. While doing so he gave made his opinio...

    Gabe Newell Says Xbox Series X is Better Than PS5
     
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    cryohellinc Ancient Guru

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    Of course, he will say this - Xbox and PC friendly strategy of Microsoft, as of late, is highly beneficial to him (Steam).

    Nevertheless - all of this "potential" and "hardware is better" talk is garbage up until we see the final products in action.

    Everyone remembers how PS3, with their super-duper multi-processor features, turned out to be in the end.

    I'm more includes going with Sony product for down-the-road, as Xbox (at this point) is pretty much a budget PC (unless they will start introducing some exclusives once again).

    Time will tell.
     
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    JonasBeckman Ancient Guru

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    So about that earlier joke on Bloodborne and it's rumored PC port and Sony and Epic Games Store exclusivity...

    Well not like it'll change anything before that gets dragged into something more than odd humorous remarks, just one mans opinion though I'll have to see the interview and if they go into details or if it's just personal preference or something like that.
    Input alone seems to be quite divisive between the X controller and the Dual Shocker before getting into the actual hardware like this mythical SSD thingie or the actual games and the usual about who or what has the better visuals ha ha.
     
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    fantaskarsef Ancient Guru

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    Marketing BS talk, just like Sweeney
     

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    HW wise he is probably right, although if I were to buy a new console it would probably be PS5. Simply because I already have a pretty decent PC and Xbox doesn't offer me anything beyond that, while PS will have some additional exclusives.
     
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    cryohellinc Ancient Guru

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    "as someone working in marketing, gets deeeply offended :D"
     
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    asturur Maha Guru

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    Was the ps3 bad? i loved it.
     
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    Coding for it.
    = = = =
    As for Newell's statement. He is right. And "Because it is." is what should have been sufficient from anyone and everyone here (guru). If effect needs GPU to do 6,000 flops per pixel. GPU will not do those flops any faster if you increase storage speed 10 times or even 100 times. It will still process data from its local memory. And processing speed will still be limited by bandwidth, latency of that memory or GPU flopping capability itself.
     
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    It´s his opinion but in the end what really matters are the games and in that front the PS seems be be ahead.
     
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    Wasn't bad - I have one myself and I love it. Coding for it was horrid. As a result most of the power wasn't using in the peak years.

    Hence why architecture and ease of development for it is crucial for the success of a modern console. Hardware capabilities, IMO, are secondary.
     

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    but even a ten years old midrange personal computer will be the better choice, GTA 6 will come out two years later for pc but they will swear it will be console exclusive - blablabla - then the degenerated kids will buy apple or google devices - blablabla - puking planet. And 'we'? We will repair this crap anyway, but making code for it the real way. - blablabla
     
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    Not really caring what Gabe has to say on anything TBH. I'm sure he's a nice guy, but...episode3...
     
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    10 years old PC does not even support DX12. HW from that time is like DX11 feature level 0. For AMD it is time of ending VLIW5, short live of VLIW4 and then year later GCN came.

    GPUs from that time are not even great at brute force, nor have spare VRAM in today's standards.
     
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    Iam going with the xbox only cause I always do, Tried the Playstaion 3 when it first came out did not like it so I will be happy to support them once it drops in late 2020. Iam an X-man sry sony. I dnt care if the cpu is a little slower or the gpu is clocked down the Marketplace layout is what I love the most. Gamepass is prertty cool 2.
     
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    Better is relative. When it comes to specs, it seems XSX may offer better graphics, whereas PS5 will probably offer an experience with less waiting and stuttering (due to loading in data).
    When it comes to games, PS5 seems to be a little more ahead, but that doesn't mean XSX won't have good exclusives down the road.

    Not like I care - I'm not getting either system.

    You may want to invest in VR. Half-Life: Alyx is often considered HL3.
     

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    We all know Gabe wanted to say PC is the best but that wasnt the question. :p
     
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    If i look at the games on Xbox one and Playstation 4 , Playstation is most definitely the winner for me.
    I cant see Microsoft turning this around.

    How much did Playstation 4 outsell Xbox one again ?
    I think Microsoft is more focussed on gamepass then on their new Xbox TBH. It is a great deal to have a gamepass. It is a shame there will be different models though, so games on Xbox series X won't be playable on Xbox One or PC.
     
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    Much like we said Sweeney's talk about PS5 was all PR and marketing.... People laughed at us.... Then a few weeks later headlines read "Sony invests $250 million dollars into EPIC games".... LOL

    I expect we shall see some form of integration of Xbox Game Pass through steam and we shall probably see a UWP version of the Steam App on the Windows Store (probably also Steam on Xbox Series X....).

    In addition to that, Sony has PS VR, Maybe we see Valve Index coming to the Xbox Series X also.....
     
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    Well did not MS added some of their games on Steam lately?
     
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    Slow news day. lol
     

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