Gabe Newell has plans to turn Steam into a network API

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Veeshush Maha Guru

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    Yeah cause Steam needs 5,000 more Slendermen games. Green Lighting is a double edge sword. Sometimes it'll keep a really great thing from joining Steam but a lot times, it filters out a TON of garbage.

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    If Steam let's everyone join then it just becomes a sort of software Amazon. Thing is, that allows junk software/games and the quality control goes out the window.
     
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    There ain't much quality control from steam anyway.
     
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    Good. No one should be able to tell me what i'm allowed to buy or not buy on steam.
     

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    anybody remember when valve made good games ? , the like's of halflife 1 & 2 i mean but now they seem intent of doing things for easy profit .
    i dont expect any more halflife related games any time soon or even ever
     
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    i actually love valve games
    left 4 dead
    portal
    team fortress

    and seeing how they treated us with the support of those games its just amazing.
     
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    Just wait for them to finish work on Source Engine 2 and I'm sure they will roll out a new half-life to show it off.
     
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    Yeah, revolutionizing the way we buy games, offering a pretty reliable place to download (at high speed mind you) any game in an unlimited library, while doing so at awesome prices (with even better sales)...That's the easy stuff.

    Bring on the hard stuff, Gabe.
     
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    I'm sure if valve does this then there'll be a separate section for these people, so it should be easy to filter out the amateur crap.

    I do think steam is becoming a bottleneck in a systems perspective anyway. While it could be a lot worse, it seems to get more bloated every other month. The Linux version is just as bad.
     
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    And all of these valve games are updated almost daily, and when the engine has a revision all those source games gets those updates too. Cry engine was recently updated again, but crysis 2 is left in the dust...
     

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    Crytek has very poor support, they just want to peddle their engine.
     
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    Bad idea IMO.
    If I understood it right he wants it to be some sort of Amazon.com.
    Well, okay but big companies like EA or Blizzard wouldn't join in anyway so I'm still going to use steam and other stuff nevertheless.
     
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    Fix'd.
     
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    Haha that too :)
     
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    Bad idea indeed

    For me it seems that Gabe has totally lost focus. First Steam Box with all the nonsense "we think all game controllers are bad but we don't have a better idea" (lolled) and then this right after... They are just trying to do Google and force themselves between end users and businesses instead of doing something that would benefit people like they once did.

    The current model works in my opinion. Just improvements to mod support and so on is needed but otherwise the business model is ok as is. They should just focus on making Steam better and stop having these nonsense ideas. Also get back into making great games and easy-to-mod engines.

    I understand he fears Windows 8 store but the right way to compete is to do things better, not running away and try to figure out a way to circumvent the "problem". They are already a mile ahead. At least I'm not following.
     

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    Sometimes, I think Gabe Newell would be better off just fading into obscurity than constantly opening his mouth. This time is no different....

    Valve owns Steam....so, by way of ownership, they should be able to tell you what you can and can't buy using their service.
     
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    Yeah we have something like that already where you can buy everything, the internet as a whole. I don't know, why does everything need to be on it? For game stuff it's always made sense, you can easily keep up on patches and the Steam games are usually not only cheaper, they're supported longer term. I bought a copy of the original Far Cry on disk years ago. Broken installer for a 64bit OS. Steam? Works. Some software I've seen on there is stuff I wouldn't mind on Steam, I even bought 3DMark. Even a lot of stuff in Greenlight might not have ever become a PC port without it.

    If you open it up though, it's going to be like browsing download.com which kind of died off for me. You're going to have to wade through thousands of crap no one wants anyway.

    Amen to that. (see more times out of not i agree with ya)

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    Yeah. Run the Google browser to surf the Google and go to Youtube. Run the Steam game console to play the games without the OS that isn't Steam. The scary thing is, neither actually has bad stuff, but I'm finding myself having a "walmart syndrome" of "why even go anywhere else?".

    Did Windows ever add a package manager simliar to updates like found on Linux yet? I swear I've heard talk of it, but if they ever did that'd make more sense than buying stuff on Steam cause you'd get the automatic updates.
     
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    Metro apps are updated and supported in a similar fashion.
     
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    Am i missing something? Because this just seems like Steam turning into YouTube, where anyone can put stuff on there and if it's successful then those people can make some money.

    Good idea in a way, but it also sounds like a way for Valve to make more money as they will now be taking a cut off alot more stuff.
    Fair enough, but if some or alot of this content is junk or broken then who is responsible for dealing with this from both a technical and financial point of view.
     
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    That's good to hear, I just hope they'll cover a lot of software. From a security stand point, that stuff needs to be done that way. Imagine if say years ago plugins were always kept up to date, the exploit rates would be a lot lower. Still exploitable, sure, but there's so many system I see with outdated Adobe/Java stuff it's sad. Imagine if upon bootup, all Windows software was updated like Steam games.

    Well, I wonder if Steam would drop games/software that isn't maintained, or if like youtube, the content stays up for ever and only gets taken down if it violates their terms. I can't see them policing everything that gets added, so again, the Greenlight is kind of a whitelist. And even then some of the Greenlight stuff is in alpha type stages of development.
     

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