Focused Thread on NTune and Vista 64 bit

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce Drivers Section' started by tomb18, Mar 5, 2007.

  1. tomb18

    tomb18 Active Member

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    I'm hoping we can set up a series of threads that focus on specific items instead of a general thread where it's difficult to pinpoint answers.

    This thread is meant to deal with ntune and vista 64. Not 32 bit version which does seem to work.

    Ok, has anyone got it to work for graphics card overclocking? This is what happens in my case:

    I install ntune (latest version which "says" it supports vista 64) and all goes well. I install it by selecting " Run as administrator" from an administrator account with uac off. I reboot.

    When I attempt to open the control panel, it takes around 20-30 seconds for it to show up and then there is a performance tab, but there is no text. Furthermore if I select the icon, there is nothing in the resulting page.

    To bring things back to normal I have to uninstall ntune, uninstall the nvidia drivers, then reinstall the drivers. (Same behavior on any nvidia drivers...100.65, 101.41 etc) otherwise it takes forever for the control panel to come up.

    Has anyone got it to work with Vista 64Bit?

    Thanks
     
  2. GhostXL

    GhostXL Ancient Guru

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    I have Vista Home Premium 64 bit. I cant even get Ntune to work period in it. Everytime I try to open the drivers with it or the Nvidia monitor it crashes.
     
  3. tomb18

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    Well, I made some progress!!! After digging in the system event logs, I found some sidebyside errors. These usually denote that some part of the c++ runtimes are not available. I looked in the control panel, Programs and Features and saw that onlt the 32 bit version of the c++ distro's were there.
    So, off I went to MS and downloaded the visual c++ 2005 runtime for x64.
    Lo and behold after 30 seconds, the control panel pops up with a fully in place option to adjust perfornmance! Motherboard and gpu.
    Problem nopw is that, the GPU test always fails! Even at stock. Therefore I cannot change it.
    Furthermore, clicking find optimal results in a speed of 542 instead of the default 550.

    It now takes around 30 seconds to open the control panel.
    Will keep looking!
     
  4. nodo

    nodo Member Guru

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    Hi !

    I have Vista Business Edition x64, 101.41 and newest ntune installed. Everything works fine, I can change the fan settings, but if i want to enable overclock, i can't use the slider :(

    So I installed the new ATI Tool, installed it by disabling the driver signature thing during bootup, and i can overclock :)
     

  5. hmav23

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    I got the same problem with OCing! Im on 32bit but It fails... even at stock speeds... it wants to lower the core by 7mhz...
     
  6. tomb18

    tomb18 Active Member

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    Doesn't it require you to do this everytime you boot? Or only once?
     
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    instructions ^_^
     
  8. jabloomf

    jabloomf Master Guru

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    Good find on the C++ x64 redists (You should email nVidia & let them know). I get the same result as you, unfortunately. Does nvMonitor work for you? When I run it, it just crashes immediately with a Vista error message.
     
  9. tomb18

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    Not much point letting nvidia know...their tech support are a bunch of lazy people that never read what you write.

    No, it never crashes. I did find out that during the load of the control panel, there are something like 600,000 system calls, including what it seems as reading every single directory on disk. Furthermore there are several buffer overflow errors during reading of the registry. And out of the 22 seconds that it takes to load the panel, there are 5, 2 second " close thread" calls.
    Seems like this has never been tested by nvidia. Or tested only on a developers system that has all necessary resources present.
    Nvidia quality control has become pathetic. Heck, on the xp64 drivers, there are 4 lines missing fromthe inf file, with a result that there is nothing in the control panel at all. Try to explain this to the techies at nvidia. Only after escalating it to second level, did someone apologize for me waisting my time, trying to solve their issues.
     
  10. Hitman-47

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    I have same problem with vista ultimate x64, ntune take 30 mins for run and the page is white...
     

  11. t_rob

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    Error: The NVIDIA driver failed to load

    After many pains here is where I am at. I loaded the forceware beta drivers 100.41. I installed the C++ 2005 redistributable 64 bit version from Microsoft. Then I installed nTune. I can get ntune to run at all times by right clicking the icon and clicking properties>compatibility>Run this program as an administrator. Here is where the problem starts. I can start the autotune process, but when autotune crashes the computer and attempts to restart nTune after computer reboot it says Error: The NVIDIA driver failed to load. It will not work again until I uninstall nTune and reinstall it, which in turn resets the auto tune process.

    As far as manually tuning I am having troubles getting the mobo settings to load, but the GPU ones seem to work. I have also heard of problems with getting profiles to load. I hope this helps some people.

    on a side note, as I do blame NVIDIA for saying that this program was compatible with 64 bit versions, even though it has been around for awhile, 64 bit Windows OS's are only now gaining some focus and it will take some time to work out bugs. That being said, it still is upsetting, but I knew when upgrading I would run into problems like this, which is why i dual boot.
     
  12. Hunted

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    FYI I have the same problem running it on my systems.
     
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  13. ChaosPhoenix

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    nTune works.. somehow. I can control the fan of my first SLI gpu, but not of my second. And if I change the view from expert to default or the other way round, nothing at all will be displayed in the controlpanel until I reinstall ntune.

    I didn't install .Net or C++ though.
     
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    Error: The NVIDIA driver failed to load.

    Use Task Manager to end the nTuneService.exe process and then launch nTune again.

    This is tedious if you have many restarts but it works.
     
  15. t_rob

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    ok so follow the steps above, go to the task manager>services. click the Services... button, go to nTune Service, right click that and go to properties. First stop the service, then change the startup type to Manual (nTune will start it when it starts) hit apply and close it all down. at this point nTune should work. this has worked for me and it can for you :approval: .

    The next step is to get NVIDIA Monitor working correctly. The only fan it shows is Aux 1 running at 4RPM and processor speed of 1009MHz
     

  16. zed201

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    could not get Ntune to load right or to work with 101,41 drivers
    and only some of it works with 100.65 but it dose loads
     
  17. roguesn1per

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    Just Use ATI tool to Overclock ur card.
     

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