Heh thanks for replying. Seriously, i tried everything, several bios, all the different approaches, everything. WinXp boot , win ME AND 98! Tried to get the write protect off, nothing.... simply refused to work. Im not kidding i tried every approach with every combination for about 2 hours..... ....but i finally got it to work! somewhere (cant remember where, i have been to soooo many sites) there was a gainward pack with a .bat file, so i ran the bat and it gave me some weird errors, kinda like the vendor id mismatch but a bit different, then it asked if i wanted to flash, and it was smoothe sailing from there. I know you guys put up with a lot of "i dunno what ive done, think ive killed my card", but seriously i had printed out all the front page, read every post here and other sites, printed out the nvflash commands from the readme, the lot. I did it all right, and it STILL didnt flash, so im thinking there must be other guys flummoxed at why their cards arent flashing either. The only thing i could think of, was perhaps it had something to do with the Quaddro softmod. Ah well. its sorted now Currently running at 530/1000 no probs at all. Superb. So if anyone else has the same trouble i did (god knows why the card wouldnt flash, the procedure wasnt exactly hard!) track down that gainward .bat to sort it out for you!