Flashing Cards. People still have problems. This might help.

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  1. Chouji

    Chouji Ancient Guru

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    ok guys im so sorry, i got banned for a week..

    To speed up a 5600u, just overclock, thats about it.

    if you get errors with both nvflash and wfflash try

    wfflash NM bios.rom

    that might work, but maybe your bios is protected, it says how to deal with protected bios on the first page.

    Vivo cards do sometimes get problems, i use the leadtek bios and i havent had any problems with, because the bios detects the My Vivo ability. if your having problems with it try another bios, msi or better yet gainward.

    some people have to flash it a few times with a few different bios's before they find one that fits them just right.

    Please post your questions again, so i will see them more recently thanks.
     
  2. Phoenix_Inferno

    Phoenix_Inferno Master Guru

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    please answer :D ty. (w00t im gonna get that leadtek card once i get all of my chinese new years money)

    [offtopic] how does my sig look :D[/offtopic]
     
  3. Chouji

    Chouji Ancient Guru

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    1: yes stated in the first post of this thread leadtek cards can be flashed, and vivo is detected by the bios, you may have to try a few different bios's for it to work with the vivo.

    2: besides creating one in windows 98, or i prefer the windows ME bootup disk, as it has boot to dos with cd rom support, which is a nice touch.

    you can create a windows XP boot disk, but it may not work as well as a 98 or ME, boot disk, how ever i have had luck with them, when formatting a floppy you can choose Create an MSdos Start up disk. and then just eject the disk once its loaded and put in the disk with the flashing software ect,
     
  4. SilentBomber

    SilentBomber Guest

    okay I decided to be brave and flash my 5900 into a 5950... the problem is though that the bios on my video card is 63k and the leadtech 5950 bios from the website is 64k, so it gave me some sort of checksum error..... I'm wanting to use the leadtech one cuz my video card has "My VIVO" and so does the leadtech 5950, cuz I want to try to keep my VIVO working..... anybody know what I can do?

    some ppl can get VIVO to work, and others cant.... I'm hoping mine works ô¿ô
     

  5. SilentBomber

    SilentBomber Guest

    nevermind.... I didnt add the NM after the wfflash ô¿ô

    it works now.... faster speeds, and cooler temps.... I was skeptical at first.... I dunno about VIVO yet though... gonna find out soon enough...
     
  6. Phoenix_Inferno

    Phoenix_Inferno Master Guru

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    ok thanks for your help Chouji, now i just have to decide if i wanna flash it...
     
  7. kindbui

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    howdy ho.. so i'm intrigued with this bios flashign stuff and i can find my way to do it all well and good
    but everyone here is flashing 5900's, i have a 5800 (not ultra), is there any use for me to flash my bios? and if there is are there any reccomendations for which one to use?

    edit: oh yeah and mine is an asus gfx 5800 i forget the exact model name
     
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  8. Phoenix_Inferno

    Phoenix_Inferno Master Guru

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    u can flash any card, but i think u can only flash 5900 cards to a 5950.
     
  9. Chouji

    Chouji Ancient Guru

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    you can flash a 5800non ultra to a 5800ultra, thats as high as you can go.

    and on a different subject.

    I been getting a few PMs on people with rom size problems, their card saying 63k, and the files being 65k and thats causing people problems.

    Now im doubting these people have read the whole thread or related threads which would be an intelligent start before PMing me.

    Now if what i already posted DID NOT work for you. i cant help you. i havent had much of a problem with file size, and the only one i had was fixed with wfflash.exe nm bios.rom, with that in mind anyone else whos had problems with file size but gotten past their problems OTHER then using NM, please post how you did it. At lease if i couldnt help i want the person needing help to get it somehow.

    To many people look to me for answers. Pretty much everything i know on the subject i posted already.

    ALOT of people ask about cross chipset flashing. like can i flash my 5600 with a 5700 ultra bios. the answer is NO.

    can i flash a 5800 to a 5900 or 5950? NO you cant.

    You can not flash a geforce 4 mx series card with a TI bios.

    If your going to flash keep it in your chipset range!. The only reason a 5900 can be flashed to a 5950, is because its basicly the same chip, different numbers thats pretty much it. the 5600 and 5700 and 5800 are all separate chips.

    The 5700 chipset is the only new one i noticed. the 5950 isnt new, but the 5700 is.

    So please people, someone asked me if they could flash their card to a different chipset, i told them no, they decided to do it anyways, then got mad at me when it messed up their card. well wanna know what? TOO BAD! i warned him of what it would do, he didnt listen, his fault!.

    Simple enough.
     
  10. SilentBomber

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    can a GF3 TI200 be flashed to a GF3 TI 500?? They are the same chip but with different frequencies, right? Or if I'm not mistaken, NVidia might have had some sort of bios lock or something... I dunno... I'm new to the world of video card bios flashing....
     

  11. Chouji

    Chouji Ancient Guru

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    honestly not sure. i would figure over clocking would do just fine, only pre geforce 4 card i have is a visiontek gf3 non ti and thats just a junk card i happen to have laying around. havent tried to much with the gf3 ti cards. i guess you can try, if you have a pci video card or know how to blind flash in case.
     
  12. vladutz

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    I have a 9700NP right now and I'd like to buy a 5900XT and flash it to a 5950 but the only model I found comes from Gigabyte. Has anyone modded successfully one of those? What bios file does it require?

    Later edit: I found a Prolink 5900 128MB also, so please let me know if it can be a good candidate for a bios flash.


    Thanks
     
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  13. Chouji

    Chouji Ancient Guru

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    look some of you guys arent listening to me. try to keep away from any nvidia card that says MX, XT, SE, and LX or anything like that. there are only 3 things that are clearly acceptable. Ultra! Ti, and non-ultra. thats it.

    from what i have seen is the XT are ultra versions of the SE. maybe im wrong, but thats what i've seen so far

    you said you would like to buy a 5900xt, but the XT in nvidia terns are different then ATI terms, ati XT means great, but nvidia XT means better then SE.

    dont get a xt, just get a normal non ultra or ultra then flash it.

    And leadtek and gainward are the only good bios's.. so people keep asking for which bios is the best as if there was a huge selection, there isnt, its leadtek or gainward. and then some others no one cares about such as msi.
     
  14. OuTbReAk

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    I tried to flash my Asus GeForceFX 5900NU with the A380U Bios using both WFFLASH and NVFlash and i couldn't do it =( With the first one I got a "Programming Error" I think thats how it was written (this happened when i was trying to backup the card Bios) so I didn't went any further with this one. Then I tryed NVFlash, did the backup fine but when it came to flash the new Bios I kept getting PCI Device - Vendor ID Mismatch even after using the cmd's which should avoid this =( I tryed erasing the Bios and then flashing but once again I got the very same error. I flashed the backup and it did fine (of course). Can anyone help me ? Where am I failing?

    Regards
     
  15. Chouji

    Chouji Ancient Guru

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    you cant remove the bios then flash, you can only overwrite it, so, try wfflash with the NM command or nvflash -f biosfile.rom -u -p

    if that doesnt work, try to get more info on the error, like what it said exactly and when it occured during the proccess. and explain your process, you might have forgotten something.
     

  16. xXMrMeathooksXx

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    (wwflash.exe NM A380U.rom) Thats all I did,it works perfect.I dident backup my old files for simplicity sake.Dont flash the XT,SE or LX cards its
    ok to but the memory modules suck they are slow compared to the ultras and slower to the 5950.The slower models cant take the high bandwidth( due to the slower latency memory.(higher memory overclock=bandwidth)The higher latency chips dont like to be overclocked to high.This is why the Ultras and non's are the best specimens for this endevor,they use 2.2ns chips.
     
  17. fragglefart

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    Hi, you said the MSI 5900's are "testy and mean"
    I have one :( and cant get it to flash. i tried every approach you have mentioned, with both the Leadtek bios, and the MSI5950 bios.
    Do you have any ideas what i could be doing wrong, or any links to other discussions on this card?
    I would try the MSI forum, but the mods there frown on this sort of discussion :)
    Would a different bios be advisable?

    Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
     
  18. Amadeus

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    Not sure what you're having problems with. Try using the instructions from the beggining of this tread.

    I have the MSI 5900 and I have flashed it with 3 different bioses (MSI 5950, Leadtek, gainward). All worked good and performance was better, temp was lower.

    I went back to my MSI 5900 VIVO original bios because I could not get VIVO to work with any of them.
     
  19. -Cerberus-

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    I get flickering with the leadtek and gainward bios, and I can't flash back to my abit bios with wfflash cos it appears I need to be using a leadtek bios to flash to. NVFLASH gives me board id mismatch error....sheeeiit.
     
  20. Chouji

    Chouji Ancient Guru

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    the board vender and ID is overwriten with the -u -p at the end of the NVflash command, after the flashing filename.

    fragglefart you might be having a write protection block, its all stated in the front page of this thread.

    Alot of people are posting without reading other peoples post completely, sure it might take a few mins or even an hour if you need to reread it a few times, but its all well worth it, print some out and study it if you have to.

    i dont want people going into this and not understanding whats needs to be done..

    "umm ok i type wfflash then umm... nW ok thats it im soo smart...." 1hour later "i cant get my card to flash i dont know whats wrong!"

    You would be surprised... how many people go into this thinking they know everything and remembered the steps to get half way into it, and forget the next step then guess at it.

    and theres no harm in putting different companies bios's all on one floppy, so if one doesnt flash just change the name of the file then try again..

    alot of people forget the NM command when using wfflash. but if it doesnt work, TRY without the NM command. its different for everyone.

    and the vivo thing. try this download the nvidia bios editor, you can save your bios to a backup in windows. then look at the subdevice ID, then write it down.. then open the leadtek or gainward bios you plan on flashing to your card, and set the subdevice ID to match that of your original stock bios.

    That has fixed alot of vivo problems. i know, i recreated the bios's changing subdevice ID's to cause the problem then to fix it.

    Though all my vivo problems were self caused rather then unexpected.

    if For subvender ID you can choose one that matches the company, for BFG users, use 10DE which is nvidia default.

    hope this helps.
     

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