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Fix game stutter on Win 10 1703-1809

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce Drivers Section' started by Mott, Apr 3, 2018.

  1. mbk1969

    mbk1969 Ancient Guru

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    A sudden thought: standby list problem discussed here can be connected to these two new features of Win10 - page combining (link) and memory compression (link). So any affected gurus can toy with these features.

    (PS I disabled both some time ago.)
     
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  2. EdKiefer

    EdKiefer Ancient Guru

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    how often does it poll/check for changes, might be it doesn't need to poll os often, is there a config option to set.
    I notice CPU time on this is not bad but it is almost like a monitoring app as far as CPU time (slightly better, )
     
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    nothing to do with it.
     

  5. mbk1969

    mbk1969 Ancient Guru

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    How do you know? Have you tested? Or you just stated your opinion?

    Page combining:
    Memory compression:
     
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  6. Wagnard

    Wagnard Ancient Guru

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    1000ms (1sec). Not sure if i'll add a config option. It is running quite invisible at this setting. Got no report of user complaining it had a negative effect on their performance or CPU usage.

    Already tried disabling memory compression in the past and it didn't help. Never tried the / checked the page combining.
     
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  7. EdKiefer

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    Not complaining, you asked if anyone wanted to see an option for a refresh rate.
    It is not that the app is consuming a lot of CPU cycles, but it does add up depending on how many background applications are running.

    Since I only hit this standby issue with long in game games (Bfv Operations), Conquest doesn't happen. I may just clear it and close it out and see if that is enough just before the game runs.
    The application is working fine, as far as doing what it is supposed too, no complaints.
     
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    thx, gonna toy around!
     
  9. mbk1969

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    @AveYo

    I have read documents about tickless kernel (Linux mostly), and I understand it as this - only one CPU core receives periodic timer interrupts (to service scheduling and time), while others non-idle cores schedule one timer interrupt to fire when needed, and idle cores do not schedule timer interrupt at all.
    So in such mode increasing system timer resolution will increase power consumption only for one CPU core.
    It is said that Windows implemented tickless kernel in Win8. So your concern about power consumption increased due to maximum timer resolution is only valid for Win7.
     
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    many users have already looked into disabling these and have had no changes when the standby list causes memory pressure.
     

  11. Vlad V.

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    Hi guys! :)

    So apparently Microsoft is now publicly gathering feedback on how to improve Windows 10 for gaming: https://xboxideas.uservoice.com/forums/919048-gaming-on-windows-10/filters/top

    I am not sure how in-depth this feedback can get, but since there are so many knowledgeable ladies and gentlemen on this forum, I though you might want to get in there and tell Microsoft what they can do better in the future! :p
     
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    Question:

    What's the best pagefile size to be distributed to two SSD's with 8GB of RAM and 3GB of VRAM?

    Should I set a min and max size or both min and max size should be the same?

    Thanks!
     
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    I set a static Min/Max at the same value. How much depends what you do. Set say 8GB worth (4GB split if you like) and see if you get close to exceeding the Committed amount. Keep an eye on Committed (Task Manager -> Memory).
     
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    You can set maximum and then if there are out of memory exceptions in apps you just increase the maximum.
    When you set equal min and max sizes the pagefile becomes of that size (static). When min and max sizes differ pagefile grows from min size to max size dynamically.
    If you set pagefiles on both disks Windows should use the pagefile on the disk with lower activity.
     
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    is it safe to disable those?
     

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    Of course. Especially if your rig has more than 4GB of RAM.
    And in case you get some troubles you can always turn these back on.
     
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    You can always try and see how your computer behaves, if anything crazy happens or you get a crash, just turn them back on.
     

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