First rumours GK110(GeForce 700)

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce' started by Funky Doodle, Mar 22, 2012.

  1. Noisiv

    Noisiv Ancient Guru

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    Yup. 50% over 680 would be my guess

    Something liek

    850MHz GPU (boost), 1500MHz DDR5(6000 Mbps), 250W TDP
     
  2. LinkDrive

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    No way. Not even on new architectures do you see a performance increase that high.
     
  3. Noisiv

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    Compared to GTX 680

    14/8 times more Cuda Cores

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    850/1050 less MHz

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    14/8 * 850/1050 = 42%

    Consider more mature TSMC process, empirical fact that more "workers" operating at low freq.(GK110) should be more TDP friendly than less workers(shaders) at higher freq.(GTX 680),

    then optimization or two here and there,
    (it's already known that GK110 has some new soup like Dynamic Parallelism, and Hyper-Q),

    and 50% more bandwidth...

    50% is rather realistic IMHO. TDP is crucial bit here.
     
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    In the past there have been numerous new architectures, which has offered similar differences in specs, that have failed to give more than 35% performance boost. Calculating theoretical percentages based off specs is a poor way of estimating the actual jump in performance. Also, Cuda cores don't count for much in games, and not many games use them. I'm really looking forward to what Hyper-Q can do in games/apps that DO use Cuda, but I'm not holding my breath.

    Maybe, when the next generation of consoles come out, and the graphical standard is raised, we'll see a 50% increase. But ATM, games just aren't optimized enough, nor do they take enough advantage of the hardware we're currently running them with. Heck, even with my GTX680, there's a number of games that I'm playing at QFHD and 2xAA + FXAA with little issue.
     
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    Meh, I'll remain skeptical at this point. People estimated the GK104 to be more powerful than what it really is. The issue is two fold - 1) games don't take advantage of the hardware and 2) AMD/Nvidia sees that games are failing to utilize their products so they end up cutting back on the final product. Nvidia themselves stated that this is the exact reason why they cut back on some of the GK104 features, such as direct compute. Also, looking at the difference in performance between the GTX680 and HD7970, bus bandwidth doesn't count for much at 1920x1080.
     
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    I been seeing 40% or so from a 680. I`m sold
     
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    40% at what price range? That's another thing to keep in mind :p
    It's possible to see a performance jump that high, but you could expect it to be a repeat of the 8800GTX, being priced at around $700.
     
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    Can't wait to see some benchmarks from this beast. I hope the price won't be any higher than $600, but I'll still be picking one up. Wonder how high it'll clock on air.

    @TK, Our cards are finally being released ;)
     
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    was planning on 2 at launch, but defo getting just 1 if the price is any indication $899
     

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    I would hope it would stay inline price wise with other top end card launches of the past.
     
  12. Matt26LFC

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    Is this actual fact, or is it just another rumor been released? Tbh unless Nvidia themselves have come out with something I'm hardly going to be getting excited about it. Also 50% performance increase, not likely.

    8800GTX was a long time ago, pretty sure we've not seen a performance leap like that since then. If Nvidia did release another card with a performance increase like that I'd buy it and then not buy another card for a few years and most likely nor would anyone else! See where I'm going with that.
     
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    Comeback for 384bit memory bus Can only hope lower end cards use it too or at lest 256bit. All rumores till such time they are not.
     
  15. yasamoka

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    BTW, just a small calculation:

    a 384-bit memory bus running at an effective 6200MHz would yield around 290GB/s of memory bandwidth. Just check out the 7970 Ghz Edition running 6000MHz effective on a 384-bit memory bus. It gets 288GB/s.

    Wonder where that 250GB/s came from. There isn't even ECC error correction on consumer graphics lines to warrant any reduction in theoretical memory bandwidth.
     
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    GDDR5 implements error correction via spec. JESD212 covers this.
     
  17. phatbx133

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    They better be good driver out of box.:nerd:
     
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    Ill take it a week earlier with no driver if it means i can just hold it for a while lol
     
  19. yasamoka

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    Yes, but why would we have 2 cards that use GDDR5 to spec, where one has lower memory frequencies and higher bandwidth, and one has higher memory frequencies but lower bandwidth over the same memory bus width?
     
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    I have been gaming for over 12 years. In that 12 years,I have purchased whatever the newest and best card was. From the Radeon 9800 right up to the 680 GTX I have now. Never, did any of the cards give a performance boost of anywhere near 50%. It just ain't gonna happen. Period!
     

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