First motherboard with built-in SSD

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  1. vbetts

    vbetts Don Vincenzo Staff Member

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    If it were made to have your os on a separate partition, I would more think you would see this in an embedded or low profile like Atom or Hudson system with a smaller linux Os or 7 basic without all the fancy extras.
     
  2. PhazeDelta1

    PhazeDelta1 Moderator Staff Member

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    HA, thanks for mentioning that. i got rid of almost 11gb of junk. :D
     
  3. CPC_RedDawn

    CPC_RedDawn Ancient Guru

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    A lot of you are saying this is for use with Intel SSD caching?

    Does this mean to use this you will have to have an Intel SSD, or can you use it with any SSD from any SSD manufacturer?

    If you can then count me in, this could speed things up quite a lot.
     
  4. Neo Cyrus

    Neo Cyrus Ancient Guru

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    That's a good question, whatever bloat Windows 7 Ultimate has. Even in your case it barely leaves any space.
     

  5. roguesn1per

    roguesn1per Ancient Guru

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    This mobo Comes with the Intel SSD out of the box.
    But im 100% sure you can use any PCIE ssd (msata).

    But i will think you will find this Intel one is actually pretty fast.

    [​IMG]
     
  6. sverek

    sverek Ancient Guru

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    I think it would be awesome if motherboards starts to implement SSD on them. It would be very nice spot for system and drivers, games and other programs could go on separate drive.

    Pretty awesome idea, in future it probably could be something about: buy motherboard with already installed system/drives on it, to best match motherboard setup.
     
  7. Svein_Skogen

    Svein_Skogen Maha Guru

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    If I'm readng the chipset specs correctly, this cache will hold a copy of the "most frequently read" data. Let me say a copy once more. This, for those hard of reading, means the data will ALWAYS get written to the spinning rust/big SSD. Don't confuse this with a ram writeback cache that is lost when the power fails (hint: That's why properly designed high end controllers with cache has a BBU). And since it's a copy, if the SSD-cache fails, you can simply replace it with a new one, and no data is lost (but performance is a little bit compromised until the SSD again holds copies of the MFU data).

    The big problem with a setup like this, is that the measurebators out there won't be able to spot it in their benchmarks/bootup-speed-tests. Odds are the SSD wil be caching real-life "most frequently used" data, and not "synthetic, written once and read back" benchmark data" (i.e. optimized for real users, not magazine benchmarks). It's also likely that sectors that are _ONLY_ read during boot will not get cached (unless you're in the habit of rebooting more often than starting a program, etc). But this is a marketing-nightmare, not a reliability-nightmare. Odds are that benchmarkers will call the technology a gimmick because they can't measurebate-it with their old methods, and then complain about the price of technology they don't understand. But that's a different story.

    //Svein
     
  8. CronoGraal

    CronoGraal Ancient Guru

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    svein, i love you bro
     
  9. maleficarus™

    maleficarus™ Banned

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    +1 heh...
     
  10. Chock

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    thats nothing new? i have 2 of these ssds in my laptop

    ill show you a picture of the slots when i opened the laptop to insert them
    [​IMG]
     

  11. vbetts

    vbetts Don Vincenzo Staff Member

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    Well if you really want to upgrade it and if you're in the US, here you go.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167039

    For a desktop motherboard it is, the port is originally made for laptop and mobile solutions. But I believe the desktop counterpart is used for cache and not actual os and storage.
     
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    roguesn1per Ancient Guru

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    vbetts ive got a feeling it will funtion the same way as the Laptop counterpart.

    Ie it can be used with other things. ( 3g/gps) stuff like that.
     
  13. Corrupt^

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    That could be it though, I tend to maintain my installation quite frequently, removing temp files and on top of that, System Restore is disabled completely. I've always considered System Restore a half assed solution that made your system sluggish. I'd rather tackle the problem manually myself or just reinstall windows.
     
  14. vbetts

    vbetts Don Vincenzo Staff Member

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    The Mini PCIe port yes, but I'm talking about for the ssd part.
     
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    I agree that this should be implemented on all high end boards. Including AMD boards

    No cacheing. Don't see it reliable enough to be mainstream.
     

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    so
    - Sequential Read: Up to 200 MB/s
    - Sequential Write: Up to 105 MB/s

    no thanks!
     
  17. roguesn1per

    roguesn1per Ancient Guru

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    Reliable?

    Its 100% Reliable....

    For one its a SLC based SSD.
    For second, its like someone else mentioned, most used data gets COPIED to the ssd, so it looks up the SSD first, if its there loads it, if not goes to normal HDD.

    If it finds no SSD or data it just moves to the HDD, meaning power failures will not do anything to the data.
     
  18. roguesn1per

    roguesn1per Ancient Guru

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    Sure its not the fastest SSD out there, but its faster than a HDD....
     
  19. WhiteLightning

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    yep its faster then a mechanical, still i think its a bad choice if i compare it to other SSD's. personally sounds like a mb that dell would use :p
     
  20. Mufflore

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    If you dont use the write back cache method, you're correct.
    But if you do use the write back cache, it adds an extra level of failure.
     

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