Firefox 64-bit Builds Discussion Thread

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  1. k1net1cs

    k1net1cs Ancient Guru

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    First off, sorry for the bump.

    Both Pale Moon x64 and Cyberfox have been updated to 19.0 code base.
    Still no signs of update from Waterfox side.
    I hope Alex is just being 'fashionably late'.

    There were problems with newest Intel C++ compiler, which was the main cause of no 17.x version of Waterfox being released.
    Waterfox went from 16.x straight to 18.x, and strangely enough no 18.0.2 for the security fixes.
    But then again Cyberfox uses the same compiler and yet seems to be able to have timely release, so dunno.
    The one being used to compile Cyberfox might not be the same version as the one Alex uses, probably even older, but if the instability outweighs the speed gain, using the latest compiler might be rather moot.
     
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    Sorry for dump? Why? I was about to post the Pale Moon updates. Damn k1net1cs, you beat me to it :mad: :)

    Both x86 and x64 have been updated.

    I use these download locations. Both download locations have both x86 and x64 links.

    http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Browsers/Pale-Moon.shtml

    http://www.softpedia.com/get/PORTABLE-SOFTWARE/Internet/Browsers/Pale-Moon-Portable.shtml
     
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    Well, it's a habit of mine when I really have to double-post, minding my manners and all that sh!t. :p

    Over on Pale Moon's website there are also a couple of download links you can choose from, for both x86 and x64.
     
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    Pale Moon x64 19.0.1 has been released.

    Release Notes
    • Fix for bookmarks giving an "XML parsing error" when set to "load in the sidebar"
    • Fix for a double padlock display if a secure site would not supply a favicon
    • Redone the mixed content https padlock image in 32bpp to prevent potential UI rendering issues
    • Fixed a setting so no unnecessary code walking is done for the otherwise disabled accessibility features
    • Fix (inherent) for add-ons and themes being marked as incompatible in Pale Moon x64 when they have a minimum version of 19.0
     

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    Are these other browsers like pale moon ect kosher to use? Can I use my regular FF add-ons with them? Sorry for noobish questions.
     
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    Yes. Both Firefox and any of the other browsers mentioned can be installed at the same time.

    Yes, they will work with x64 Pale Moon. I don't use the other browser so I can't speak for there extension support but my gut feeling is yes, they also support add-ons.

    http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Browsers/Pale-Moon.shtml

    Start page after installing Pale Moon with additional information on transfering bookmarks and such.

    http://www.palemoon.org/firstrun.shtml

    Pale Moon home page.

    http://www.palemoon.org/
     
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    'Kosher' lol...

    Well, anyway, what Watcher said.
    Don't worry about addons, they will work on any Firefox derivatives regardless of it being 32 or 64-bit, as long as the supported version of the addon is the same as the version of the Firefox derivative.
    e.g. if the addon supports Firefox 19.0, then Pale Moon, Waterfox, or Cyberfox 19.0 will support the addon just fine.
     
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    Cyberfox 19.0.1 has been released.
    • New Cyberfox Web Installer
    • New First Run & Welcome Page.
    • [Bug Fix] (Help Menu\Troubleshoot) <-About:Support-> Reset Cyberfox In Default Profile & Multiple Profiles.
    • [Bug Fix] (Help Menu) Cyberfox Help Now Working.
    • [Bug Fix] (Help Menu) Cyberfox Submit Feedback Now Working.
    • [Bug Fix] (Help Menu) Cyberfox Getting Started Now Working.
    • [Bug Fix] (Browser Start Up) Fix Bug On Browser Start Speed Increase Of 4%. (Note: Might Not Seem Like Much But Better Noticed On Slower PC’s.)
    • [UI Change] Cyberfox Default Theme Icons. Now Brighter & More Vibrant.

    Please note that both Cyberfox 19.0.1 and Pale Moon x64 19.0.1 have nothing to do with (upcoming?) Firefox 19.0.1.
    The version increment is there to indicate some modifications on the original 19.0 release, not that it's being sourced from Firefox 19.0.1 code base.
    Also, Waterfox is probably (still) waiting for Firefox 19.0.1 before a 19.x release is coming out.


    [edit]
    Now I'm not so sure regarding Cyberfox 19.0.1.
    I haven't tested it, but if you can open PDF files without using your PDF reader plug-in inside the browser, then Cyberfox 19.0.1 is most likely sourced from Firefox 19.0.1.

    Pale Moon x64 19.0.1 was definitely not coming from Firefox 19.0.1 though.
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    Wow... I didn't know about Xhmikos' build... Very interesting, especially since it's the latest beta, I normally care/use. Thanks, pal.

    Edit: And as it seems, he updates the browser extremely fast... 20 beta 5 is on Mozilla's ftp, and Xhmikos already has built this version.
     
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    Sweet, I'm going to try out Cyberfox and Pale Moon.
     
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    What are the benefits going 64bit Palemoon instead of 32bit?

    I know the disadvantages in general but not the benefits.

    EDIT:

    http://www.palemoon.org/palemoon-x64.shtml

    I can see the disadvantages and a few advantages here but not many!
     
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    Compared to its 32-bit version, not that much.
    Like any other 64-bit Firefox, it will be a tad slower on benchmarks but more responsive overall.

    Even Moonchild (Pale Moon dev) suggests to just use 32-bit version since 64-bit versions can have display problems when hardware acceleration is turned on because 64-bit graphics drivers haven't really matured as its 32-bit counterparts, and turning off hardware acceleration on 64-bit versions would just make using 64-bit version moot.

    Compared to other 64-bit Firefox derivatives, though, Pale Moon is lighter, but not necessarily faster.
    It doesn't win you awards on benchmarks (although it's not doing them too bad either), but it's light enough to warrant a second try at it.


    In other news, it seems Waterfox will have another delay and aim for 20.x release instead.
     
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    Thanks for the advice.
     

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    Cyberfox 20.0 has been released.
    • New: 8pecxstudios Facebook Page Drop Over And Give A Like.
    • New: All New Cyberfox Start Page Style, Sleek, Light-Weight & Stylish.
    • Fixed: Small Bug With WebRTC & Vp8 Codec.
    • Fixed: Jump-list On Cyberfox Now Works On Task-bar And Via Start Menu.
    • Fixed: Few Issues On 8pecxstudios Support Forums See Forums For Details.
    https://8pecxstudios.com/?page_id=7032


    Official Firefox 20.0 release notes can be found here.
     
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    Pale Moon x64 20.0.1 has been released.


    New/updated/changed major features:

    • Per-window Private Browsing
      You can find a good explanation of this new feature on Mozilla's website here.
    • Panel-based download manager.
      Following Firefox, Pale Moon 20 by default enables the panel-based download manager. Since you may not like either the downloads button feature or the actual panel display, they are configurable as follows:
      If you prefer to use the classic download manager, you can do so from the status bar options:
      Appmenu (Pale Moon button) -> Options -> Status bar options... -> Download -> "Use classic download window" (you may have to restart the browser after this change)
      Note: You may lose your download history switching to the "classic" UI. There are also some potential cosmetic issues with the classic download manager window you may run into as it's not 100% supported anymore because of the "under the hood" changes to the way downloads are handled.
      If the effects included with the downloads UI toolbar button cause issues (it will show an enlarged arrow fading towards the button when a download is started or finished, which may possibly cause slowdowns if your system can't use hardware acceleration in Pale Moon) you should remove the button from your navigation bar and instead use the status bar download indicator:
      1. Right-click a toolbar and select "Customize..."
      2. Drag the Download arrow button from your navigation bar to the customization window to remove it from the UI (this will appear as an arrow icon with "downloads" under it)
      3. Find the other down arrow with "Download status" under it and drag it down to the status bar (by default left of the progress meter, but anywhere you prefer)
      4. Close the customization window
      5. Go to Options -> Status bar options... -> Downloads and check "Always show the downloads indicator"
    • Ability to close hanging plugins, without the browser hanging.
    • Performance improvements related to common browser tasks.
    • Pale Moon specific Cairo performance fix for scaling/panning/zooming of HTML5 drawing surfaces.
      Current releases of Firefox have issues with particularly large drawing surfaces. Pale Moon implements a fix for this to prevent performance issues caused by this, which can be seen very clearly on e.g. the MSIE 10 Test Drive Chalkboard test (warning: trying to run this test in Mozilla Firefox will hang the browser and will take a very long time to finish.)
    • Pale Moon specific fixes for performance of drawing elements (gradients, etc.).
      A number of smaller fixes have been implemented to further reduce processor usage when drawing certain graphical elements.
    • HTML5 canvas now supports blend modes.
    • Various HTML5 audio and video improvements.
    • Update of the Status Bar code to work with the new code base.
      This includes adding the setting for switching back to the classic download manager, updates for CSS parser changes, and the default set of tools no longer including the download status in the status bar (since it's included in the downloads button in the main navigation bar), as well as detections of full-screen modes and adjusting controls as-appropriate. Many thanks to Sparky Bluefang for continuing to update and improve the underlying Status-4-Evar add-on code without which the Pale Moon status bar would have been a lot harder to implement and especially maintain.
    • ECMAScript for XML (E4X) is kept available for add-ons. Note that this will be removed in future versions as E4X is obsolete.
      Add-on users who still use this scripting technique are strongly urged to move to a different scripting technique, e.g. JXON or DOM-native. Please see the Mozilla E4X page for details about this issue. Firefox 20 already disables this feature, and from 21 onwards the code will be removed entirely because it is really obsolete.
    • Developer tools have been enabled by default, considering the code is practically impactless unless actually used.
      The Web Developer tools have been partially disabled for a long time in Pale Moon, with an initial intention to completely remove the code. Initially, these tools would cause extra load and could slow down the browser, but with the improvements made in the underlying code base (e.g. IonMonkey, memory handling) as well as improvements in the build method for Pale Moon, the developer tools are no longer causing issues when enabled. Please do note that these web developer tools are provided AS-IS, and if you have any particular functionality issues with these tools, you should talk to the Mozilla team or fellow devtools users on this forum. I will not touch the devtools code or provide support for it.
    • Theming has been worked on to provide better contrast on glass/dark themes and to work around styling issues present in v19.
      You will notice slightly colored, light icons on glass and dark themes, and the standard (previous) set of icons on light themes. HTTPS address bar shading (on by default) encompasses the entire address bar now. This shading may be a little less visible on dark themes or glass, but this will be improved in future versions of the browser.
    • Updated fallback character sets to Windows-1252 to properly adhere to the Encoding Standard.
      This change should prevent some "page flashes" on web pages specifying a specific character set in <meta> tags in the header.
    • Restored legacy function key handling (uplifted from Firefox 22).
      High-range function keys (F13-F24) should work properly again.
    • Fixed UNC path handling (Chemspill Firefox 20.0.1).
      Address bar/search box would not work for Windows users whose profile resides in a network share. :!: and other related bugreports. bug #846848
    • Always enable personas, also in Private Browsing mode.
      Firefox will remove personas (lightweight themes) in Private Browsing windows. Pale Moon restores the use of personas in all windows - the browsing mode should not affect personalization/customization, especially when there are clear other indicators present about the browsing mode used.
    • Experimental support for H.264 videos in HTML5.
      This feature is experimental, has some known bugs, and may cause crashes or browser hangs, so is disabled by default. You have to manually enable it in about:config by setting the preference media.windows-media-foundation.enabled to true. This feature will only work on later Windows versions, likely only on Windows 7 and 8.

    Security fixes relevant to Pale Moon:

    • MFSA 2013-30 A fairly large number of memory safety hazards (crashes/corruption/injection).
    • MFSA 2013-31 Out-of-bounds write in Cairo library (CVE-2013-0800)
    • MFSA 2013-34 Privilege escalation through Mozilla Updater (CVE-2013-0797)
    • MFSA 2013-36 Bypass of SOW protections allows cloning of protected nodes (CVE-2013-0795)
    • MFSA 2013-37 Bypass of tab-modal dialog origin disclosure (structural fix)
    • MFSA 2013-38 Cross-site scripting (XSS) using timed history navigations (CVE-2013-0793)
    • MFSA 2013-39 Memory corruption while rendering grayscale PNG images (CVE-2013-0792)
    • MFSA 2013-40 Crash fix: Out-of-bounds array read in CERT_DecodeCertPackage (CVE-2013-0791)


    http://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2392
     
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    Cyberfox 20.0.1 has been released.


    • 8pecxstudios Facebook Page Drop Over And Give A Like.
    • New: All New About Cyberfox Style, Sleek, Light-Weight & Stylish To Match Then New Home Page.
    • New: New Code Signing Certificate As Free One Had Issues Details.
    • Fixed: Another Small Bug With WebRTC & Vp8 Codec.
    • Fixed: Bug In Ion.cpp With uint32_t To int64_t Was Given Wrong Value By Macro.


    12/4/13 Hotfix

    • Level: Medium
    • Fixed: Bug Found In Vista Duplicate Items in Jumplist.
    • Fixed: Bug Found In MacroAssemblerMIPS.h With ICC ( Intel C++ Compiler ) Invalid Offset Given. ( Type: Memory Leak. )

    See Mozilla Official. Release Notes For Bug Fixes & Current Issues With Firefox 20.0.1 Source.
    Critical: 20.0.1: Security fixes can be found here


    https://8pecxstudios.com/?page_id=20353
     
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