@dsbig I did not know about that weapon debris stuff. Even on Maxwell and Pascal I'm pretty sure that option being on was causing me trouble. Anyway, I'm long done with this game @AsiJu I certainly had more crashes with the HD texture pack. On both my old 980Ti and my current 1080Ti. I could literally load right before a crash, reproduce it several times with the HD pack installed, uninstall the HD pack and have that same load not crash. I ended up using a bunch of packaged texture mods from the NEXUS with the NEXUS mod manager and I was able to get through the end of the base game and all the DLC's with few issues. Oh, and the weirdest thing about having the HD pack installed was that after the camera did its VATS zoom thing in combat, 50% of the time the game would go down to 1 FPS and be stuck there until I quit. Changing video options didn't help, FPS caps on/off, Vsync on/off in the game .ini, reloading without quitting. Nothing would solve it other than quitting and loading fresh. It was super odd, never figured it out but was 100% down to the HD pack since it *never* happened in vanilla or with texture mods. Also, if you don't care so much about graphics and want a good story, give Fallout 3 and New Vegas a look. I had way more fun in the Fallout universe of 3 and NV than I did in 4.