Even the cheaper X570 motherboards will get a steeper price says MSI CEO

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  1. Warrax

    Warrax Member Guru

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    Ouch so about 260$ CAD + taxes for an entry level X570 motherboard...I'm not too happy about that, I usually try to not go over 230$ CAD with taxe with a high-end chipset, indeed AMD is not about price anymore...at least for the high-end gear.
     
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    X370, x470, b450, etc. What do you people not understand about this?
     
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    I'm well aware of these are options, I was only talking about the price of X570.
     
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    Yet you stated "AMD isn't about "price" anymore with the high end", even though x370 and x470 exist, both are high end. If you need PCI-Express 4.0, then get x570, otherwise, don't, you'll get no benefit from x570 over the other. You can't exactly call AMD expensive, when intel doesn't even have PCI-Express 4.0 boards to determine if one company is expensive, or not.
     
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  5. gerardfraser

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    I am in Canada.I did a bundle deal thru ebay Canada on 15% or 20% off day and got a free (or paid $10 Canadian or so) for Msi X470 Gaming Plus .

    Now I will be keeping this motherboard as with BIOS updates it is a real nice motherboard for the cheapest one out there and will be perfect for 12 core Ryzen with no expectation of any loss in performance compared to $1000 X570 Motherboard.

    The AMD Ryzen 3 CPU's will come already maxed out with XFR/PBO 3 and will not need overclock but if I am wrong I will overclock the AMD Ryzen 3 to the max and add a fan if needed on anything .That is if I even buy a Ryzen 3 CPU as my 2600X does a fine job @4K now.
     
  6. DW75

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    Sadly, my Asus X370-F died, so I had to replace it. I recently got an Asrock X470 Taichi. This is an outstanding board, although our prices in Canada suck for everything. I have no concerns about upgrading from my R7 2700X in the future. I plan on putting an R9 3900X in this puppy in the next few months. I have a feeling that the X470 Taichi is going to be a hot seller once the X570 boards are out. Many people are probably going see no point in buying a low end X570 board for 200 US, when they can spend 20-30 bucks more to get a top end X470 board. This is just my opinion of course.
     
  7. anticupidon

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    No word on B550 yet?
     
  8. Jawnys

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    no im just saying that my ryzen system will become my main gaming rig, ii know pcie 4 wont make a difference for a graphic card, not yet anyway, but yeah ill need the extra lane eventually for the ssds
     
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    There's rumors, to my knowledge, of B550, and maybe A520, but the "issue" with these motherboards, is if they do come out, i'm not really sure what the point of them would be, at least at rumored information. They wouldn't be chipsets made in-house by AMD, according to the rumor, they'd be asmedia, same as a320, b350, x370, b450 and x470. They wouldn't have PCI-Express 4.0 either. So i'm not sure what would actually be useful about them being released.

    Having a wide selection of motherboards to choose from:

    A320 (where bios updates allow)
    B350 (If bios updates are done)
    X370 (If bios updates are done)
    B450
    X470
    X570

    I'm really just not sure where B550 and A520 would really...fit, or be useful for.
     
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    If the rumor is true then yes, they probably won't be all that useful. Ideally, the A520 and B550 will just simply be binned or cut-down versions of the X570. Not everyone needs all the PCIe lanes, but they might want PCIe 4.0. That in turn could also remove the need for a chipset fan. I don't think existing 300 or 400 series boards will have VRMs good enough to overclock some of the new high-end Zen2 CPUs, while, X570 boards might be overkill or too expensive.
     

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    What if B550 boards let you use PCI-E Gen4 in GPU and ONE M2 (16+4 lanes, direct connection to CPU), and the ASMedia chipset just work with PCI Gen3?
    Is that possible?
     
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    I think it'd be difficult to state why x370 and x470 boards can't do PCI-Express 4.0 from the CPU if it's a Zen 2 CPU then.

    I'm not saying it's impossible, just simply it'd put AMD in kind of a bind about them disallowing previous gen chipsets from doing it. But who knows if they were to allow this maybe they'd come up with a reason that the new asmedia chipsets have the ability for you to use PCI-E 4.0 from the CPU whereas the other ones don't...for some reason....
     
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    There were rumors of PCI-E Gen4 on pre X570 boards:

    https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-pre-x570-boards-will-not-support-pcie-gen-4.html


    Maybe with B550 they can "assure" the "more stringent signaling requirements of Gen4" by working with board partners.
    But if that means a significantly greater cost, then yes, I don't expect to see this in a budget oriented board.
     
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    Yesterday, I found out from a friend of mine that works at Canada Computers that the Asus X570-F is going to cost 409 Canadian plus tax. That is 458 Canadian. This is shockingly expensive for an upper midrange/lower high end board. For people not interested in PCIE 4.0, a better option may be just buying a top end X470 board instead. I am just going to stay on my Asrock X470 Taichi that I recently got after my Asus X370-F died.
     

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