EA wins worst company again, COO blames homophobia

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  1. tsunami231

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    Shocking it everything but EA's fault...I have not bought an EA game in forever, Swtor was only bought cause it was closest thing to Kotor3 we getting, Use to buy there NHL series ever year till they screw that up
     
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  3. Cyberdyne

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    Worst game company in the USA? Sure.
    Worst company in the USA? Hell no.
    Take your pick from any one of the oil companies. Or Bank companies.
     
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    sounds like total biscuit.

    Anyway, its just another PR BS from Peter and dodging the question and the real problems.

    He justify the claim that they are voted down not because of DRM, Origin by saying people loves them for it and it shows on the sales chart. Its a fallacy because those who voted down is not the same group of people who buy the games or are people who bought the game but disappointed. We dont have the precise figure of who voted down the company to make any logical analysis on it. Peter is just BSing the reason on why they are voted down.

    Then he try to assert that if its not because of those reason, then it must be homophobic, another illogical conclusion that comes out of nowhere.
     

  5. IPlayNaked

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    Obviously not. He gives the real reason, which you know to be true, why EA is voted the worst company in America above, in, again, the statement you linked. This is an online poll. People who play EA's games are the only ones who care about an online poll.

    Does anyone objectively believe EA is worse than Bank of America, really? Do you really think they do more damage? Come on, of course they don't. The point is, the reason EA constantly wins this poll is because only the nerds who play EA games vote in it.

    But anyway. I think there's a disconnect between you guys and the rest of the world. My point stands. EA isn't a company trying to make games for you, or me. They're making the lowest common denominator games. Lets get as many people on board at any cost and just take in the money. That doesn't make them bad or freaking evil, they're just fufilling demand thats already there.

    He says as much in his points. He acknowledges that some disagree with EA for various decisions and practices but the majority of players are content or even happy. Maybe EA doesn't make games for you. Maybe its time to go to the Valves, the Bethesdas, the Indie companies, the hundreds or thousands of other companies that want to cater to you.
     
  6. chanw4

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    erm, he is aying that DRM, Origin, micro-transaction is NOT the reason which is reflected by the amount of people using it (forcefully so) and the amount of people bought their game. He then said that the reason is because the poll is riggied by homophobia etc..

    He is clearly not admitting these are bad practices. He is clearly arguing that these points are good because people still play their games, buy their games regardless of how it screw things up.
    He simply said that these are good because there are always some sucker that will sucks bad practice.
     
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    If we are homophobia the the COO of EA is a ultra homophobia .
     
  8. Major Melchett

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    The CEO did not blame homophobia for winning (and he certainly did not try to refer to us all as homophobic like you try to make out in you post), that really is a misleading title.

    The CEO stated that they had received loads of letters of complaint regarding that and that they had seen sites that where telling people to vote against EA because of it. This is true and he didn't say at all that the were going to win/loose because of this, he was merely stating that this was happening and that this part wasn't a valid complaint and held no water.
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    It funny how some people flame EA for some of the things they say and then twist the words around to say something just as bad (or in this case worse).
     
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  9. Stukov

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    I'm going to have to disagree. He starts off by saying how EA was voted worse company over companies who committed mortgage fraud and spilled oil in major ecological disaster. Then acknowledges mistakes they made which included shutting games early, price missteps, and Sim City launch failure.

    He then dismisses issues of DRM, Origin, F2P, etc (basically saying its not true) and finally concludes with his LGBT assertion. Which he says:
    This makes it rather clear he (which be EA as he is the COO and speaking on EA's behalf) that homophobia is a reason in which it was voted worst company.

    He dismisses why us, the consumers, would vote them worst company and says it's because of a campaign against the LGBT community.
     
  10. sykozis

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    He dismisses DRM because the vast majority of gamers simply don't care about DRM....they care about playing the damn games. Which is a proven point based on sales figures. We, as enthusiasts and hardcore gamers, hate DRM.....but the average user doesn't care.

    He dismisses Origin because usage figures prove that the majority has accepted Origin as a competitor to Steam.....which it very much is, regardless of what the Steam fanatics claim.

    He dismisses F2P because it's a VERY popular model. As proven by subscription numbers, people would prefer to play F2P games than subscription based (WoW is seemingly an exception to this)....

    He calls the LGBT campaign bull**** because it is. Religious fanatics and Anti-Homosexual groups (for lack of a better term) will jump on anything that they believe furthers their cause. Doesn't matter if it's protesting a gaming company or interrupting the gay pride parade, as long as they have a means to protest against homosexuality, they'll jump all over it.

    The average consumer doesn't take part in these types of polls...either because they have no idea that they exist or because it doesn't affect their lives. These polls are the result of enthusiasts and fanatics....not the average consumer and the results should be seen as such. Sales and subscription figures are how the average consumer votes....
     

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    Thats the fallacy of his speech, he relate the sales figure to the poll result. Those who voted EA as the worst company aint the same people who is buying and playing the game happily. And as a result, should not and cannot be use at such relationship saying that it does not hold water over the result of the poll.
     
  12. sykozis

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    The poll results, contrary to his claim, do hold water. Do the poll results really matter though? At the end of the day, what's more important to him? The customers that are buying the games and happily playing them? Or some poll? Now, I'm not an EA supporter by any means.....but I think this poll, or at least the result, is bull****. There are much worse companies than EA and if it was a properly done, public poll, one of those companies would have gotten that "award".... That said, the "always on" connection requirement for SimCity is DRM whether he's man enough to admit it or not. That may not have been the primary reason for putting it in....but the fact they removed single player mode proves it to be DRM.
     
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    surprised monsanto didn't win worst company... i guess they are just so corrupt and evil that they were just assumed to be one of the worst.
     
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    The question would be what if the situation were reversed, i.e how legitimate would he consider the poll to be had it been a vote for the best company and they had won? Would he be out there asking if the results were legitimate if those that voted were genuine folk with a real beef or just religious nut jobs with an axe to grind no matter what the situation, or is it more likely they would be out there touting their new title and not at a single point question just how legit the title really is?
     

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