E4300 or 6300?

Discussion in 'Processors and motherboards Intel' started by ROBSCIX, Jan 27, 2007.

  1. Preachergeek

    Preachergeek Ancient Guru

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  2. Cadoam

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    I recommend the E4300 over the E6300 for many reasons:

    1. The E4300 is supposed to run cooler than the E6300, since it's based on the allendale core, so their actually only 2MB of cache on it instead of 2 MB being disabled.

    2. The E4300 has a higher multiplier, it's 9 instead of 7 for the E6300 ( is it 6 or 7 ? ) and it has a lower FSB, 800 instead of 1066, meaning that you won't have to have as good as ram to get a good overclock.

    3. The E4300 and E6300 perform almost exactly the same at stock, their's like a 2-5% increase for the E6300 since it runs 60MHZ faster, and has a 266mhz FSB increase.


    So, from these three things, I recommend the E4300 over the E6300... What I didn't mention was the price since it depends where you buy... but the E4300 is cheaper to produce and is supposed to sell for a good $25 - $30 ( U.S ) cheaper then the E6300.
     
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    1. It's already been proven that E4300 runs at the exact temperature of the E6300 (makes sense since, even if the E6300 has 2MB cache extra, those are inactive anyway).

    2. It also means the E4300 will be fed more slowly.

    3. 60MHz on the core are nothing, 66MHz on the FSB (33%) may make a difference in memory intensive apps.

    That aside, I'm considering an E4300 myself. If only those d**n DDR2 kits would come down in price now...
     
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    I'm trying to understand WHY would they make the 4300 better than the 6300. Makes no sense even for the OC. I'd get the 6300 to be on the safe side personally, but if your into HEAVY overclocking I'd do what those guys said :)
     
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    I think that something that is different than the E6300 instead of the E4300 is the fact that it has a 9x multiplier, meaning it will OC with lower FSB, meaning you can have a lower end motherboard.. It's hard to argue a 9x multiplier isn't better then a 7x or 6x ( lol, I still don't know .. ) for overclocking.
     
  7. Preachergeek

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    yeah, some of you guys seem to be playing the "it's too good to be true" card here, but in this circumstance it isn't. The e4300 is the perfect budget cpu, cheap, v overclockable, doesn't require a high end mobo or ram to oc well. Just perfect. This isn't some kind of rumour either, it's a real cpu. I just don't see why anyone would bother with an e6300 or e6400 now. The only reason i went for an e6600 is because i wanted the added epenisability of having 4mb cache. :p
     
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    Yes they are using D9 bro im talking by my own experience, i just got a 2*1 gb kit 2 weeks ago from newegg and i tell you 100% sure they are using D9 i did check it myself when i bought the ram, i dont know about everyone else but yes they do use;) D9 as of now.
     
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    Don't forget the possibility of hitting 4ghz with an e6600. The e4300 will I'm pretty sure not hit anywhere near that speed. e4300 would be lucky to hit 3.5ghz although it's probably a better chance of happening than an e6600 hitting 4ghz.
     
  10. ROBSCIX

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    I think that is very good myself. If you can clock a CPU rated for ~1.8 all the way to ~3.5. I am not much of a overclocker, if I buy this chip and leav it stock I will always have the options to crank it up. Very nice option to have. What will my cooling requirments be like running these chips at such a high clock speed? -I was told they run rather cool for the speed they do run.
    I will be going C2D becasue for the price there seems to be no better performing chip right now. Also what is the sense of doing the build if I Can't use the new technology?
     

  11. Preachergeek

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    If you want to hit 3.5ghz you'll almost certainly need h20, or maybe if you're really lucky high end air cooling. Anything below 3ghz should be doable with a decent aftermarket hsf, such as the Arctic Freezer pro 7. With the stock hsf you will probs be able to go to about 2.7-2.8ghz i'd expect. Maybe higher, i don't have any experience overclocking these e4300s.
     
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    you will get the E4300 or the E6300to around 3ghz fairly easily , the E4300 is slightly easier because of th higher multi, a decent air cooler should be enough to hit 3ghz
     
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    To choose one of them depends on what u prefer...

    Some prefer lower FSB for lower power consumption and lower temperatures of north bridge. This is the case when u should go for higher mutliplier (4300)

    Some prefer higher FSB for higher overall bandwidth and increased performance of the whole system. This is the case when u go for lower multiplier.

    4300 lacks Virtualization... which is useless function for most of users. ITs suited for runing more operating system simultaneously, or as published on official Intel website, it can be used for absolutely safe browsing through creating virtual machine and runing webbrowser on it.

    Btw, are there some benchmarks comparing e6600 and e4300@e6600?
     
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    I have a 40% overclock (2.13 to 3ghz) on stock cooling and it runs cool. :). You may be able to take an e4300 to 2.6 or thereabouts on stock cooling as well. At that speed, its performance would be close to a $500 proc (e6700). Modest after-market cooling should take it to 3ghz comfortably.
     
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    My E4300 will do 9 x 335 with 1.25 voltage, tested, when i did my cpuz run the voltage was on auto and fed the cpu 1.3x amount of voltage, at idle it ran fine, but this was on the stock HSF and I'll need to buy a better cooler.

    Im running the e4300 with the basic Asus P5B board and i havent run into a ceiling on cpu speed, but I have only attempted to overclock it twice, right now im running at 2.8ghz with 1.213 voltage and under stress it barely gets to 50c, but when you add more voltage the cpu's stock fan simply isnt enough to keep it cool.
     

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    Stang289

    You will run into a FSB wall before A CPU wall. That Board Wont make it above 400 or prob anywhere near that
     
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    Thats the beauty of the e4300, you wont even need to take it close to 400FSB and still get a good OC. 3.2ghz is only 356 FSB. You can use value ram with that.
     
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    Super pi 1mb E4300 @ 3.6ghz Time:16.3.....my E6300 @ 3.4ghz Time:16.7.....not much of a difference BUT the E4300 was nowhere near stable....from what i've seen best stable o/c with an E4300 was 3.3ghz Air and 3.5ghz Water.
     
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    and Im sure next think ya know youll see 4ghz. It always happens this way.
     
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    So are they basically the same processor out of the box? I mean the performance would be similar without any overcloking correct? The 4300 is gonn drop in price still I was told and seeing as it;s the better OC chip out of the pair it seems like the way to go for sure. Is this the what everybody is basically saying?
     

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